Brakes Screeching

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MakaveliX

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662 posts

44 months

Tuesday 8th March 2022
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Had both front pads and discs replaced about 2 months ago.
Rear have two drum brakes
Now every now and again when braking I get a screeching sound ?

the only thing I can think of is a small stone trapped behind the pads.

I have tried to use some brake cleaner, and use a jet hose to blow out any debris but it continues

Any ideas ?

UTH

10,691 posts

193 months

Tuesday 8th March 2022
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What car/pads etc?

For example, it's extremely common to have horrible brake squeal on something like my Evo 6 with competition pads, but it should be non existent on a Mini Countryman my wife drives.

MakaveliX

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662 posts

44 months

Tuesday 8th March 2022
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Yaris 08

Not sure which brand they are, could be cheapo ones.
Cost about £200 to get them done.

I am booked in with the mechanic soon for something else, maybe just get them to look at it ?

Just confused as they're pretty much brand new, shouldn't be making any noises already

sherman

14,435 posts

230 months

Tuesday 8th March 2022
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Pads not alligned properly or the never got changed.
Are your drum brakes needing replaced too
Can you tell if its from the front, back, left, right?

UTH

10,691 posts

193 months

Tuesday 8th March 2022
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MakaveliX said:
Yaris 08

Not sure which brand they are, could be cheapo ones.
Cost about £200 to get them done.

I am booked in with the mechanic soon for something else, maybe just get them to look at it ?

Just confused as they're pretty much brand new, shouldn't be making any noises already
Hmmmm. I can't really help with a 'normal' car.

When my brakes get too noisy in the Evo, a few very hard stops to get them nice and warm and a good 'workout' quietens them down. Not sure that would be the advice for a Yaris though.

MakaveliX

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44 months

Tuesday 8th March 2022
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sherman said:
Pads not alligned properly or the never got changed.
Are your drum brakes needing replaced too
Can you tell if its from the front, back, left, right?
Pads have definitely been changed as the old ones were quite thin, new ones are nice and thick.

I thought drum brakes in my car were used for the handbrake ?

Strange how it doesn't always make a screech, just now and then

Can't really tell which side of the car it comes from

sherman

14,435 posts

230 months

Tuesday 8th March 2022
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Drums wont have the same power as the front brakes but they will provide some stopping power.
Did you ever brake your push bike with just your front brake in your younger days?

MakaveliX

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662 posts

44 months

Tuesday 8th March 2022
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It does sound as if it's coming from the back as I can remember when the front ones squeaked before getting them changed, it made a different noise in a different place

MakaveliX

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662 posts

44 months

Tuesday 8th March 2022
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If it were the wear indicators ( at the back ) surely it would make the noise every time I brake ?

E-bmw

11,071 posts

167 months

Wednesday 9th March 2022
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If, as you say, it is coming from the rear, it could well be that the drums need a good clean out & the pads/cable re adjusting.

Smint

2,367 posts

50 months

Thursday 10th March 2022
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If the sound is coming from the rear drums then as above a good clean out, roughen the friction material with something abrasive, take off any rust layer that forms on the drum friction area surrounding the smooth surface where the shoes bite, a miserly touch of lube at obvious pivot points etc and the chance to feed a little oil into the handbrake cable.

With disc brakes in particular the source of squealing can sometimes be found on close examination, often high frequeny vibration where the pads are vibrating against either the piston or where the pads backing plate edges come into contact with the caliper casting, where this vibration happens there will usually be a spotlessly clean bit of metal showing where that repeated vibration has effectively polished the metal.

Usually good annual or at the most every other year the brakes should be stripped cleaned and lubed properly when reassembling with the correct brake grease, making sure pistons and sliders are free moving.
Not many people do this, suggest to ping off any stainless steel sprung clips that grip the pads in the caliper, can get a build up of crud and corrosion underneath them over time, a good wire brushing of the clips and scrape any stubborn crud off the caliper with an old chisel, you'll find the clips go back in easier and pads slide in much easier too.

Brake cleaner is good for cleaning things when the brakes are dismantled and for cleaning the light grease from new discs, not great as a squirt at the brakes treatment (sadly seems to be the favourite method of brake non servicing at main dealers) because it dries out any existing lubricants that may still be doing their job, i'd prefer washing the brakes down with water in situ which is more likely to dissolve any salt residue causing issues.

Edited by Smint on Thursday 10th March 07:31