Mix and match tyres (Macan)...
Discussion
it's, sort of, that time again when 2 of the tyres (the fronts) on Mrs DG's Macan need to be replaced, currently on there are Pirelli P-Zeros (265/45/20 if it makes any difference). Now as I understand it common wisdom is that you swap the rears to the front and pop the new ones on the back - not possible as the sizes are staggered.
My question is simply, is there any gain/point if I were to replace the fronts with either Michelin or Continental? In fairness, it's probably a psychological issue rather than anything else as I'm not a big fan of Pirelli but do like t'other 2. Pricewise, there's, near as dammit, no difference the thing that's stopping me is that having the afore-mentioned mix of tyres would, like, make my teeth itch!
Any thoughts?
My question is simply, is there any gain/point if I were to replace the fronts with either Michelin or Continental? In fairness, it's probably a psychological issue rather than anything else as I'm not a big fan of Pirelli but do like t'other 2. Pricewise, there's, near as dammit, no difference the thing that's stopping me is that having the afore-mentioned mix of tyres would, like, make my teeth itch!
Any thoughts?
DodgyGeezer said:
it's, sort of, that time again when 2 of the tyres (the fronts) on Mrs DG's Macan need to be replaced, currently on there are Pirelli P-Zeros (265/45/20 if it makes any difference). Now as I understand it common wisdom is that you swap the rears to the front and pop the new ones on the back - not possible as the sizes are staggered.
My question is simply, is there any gain/point if I were to replace the fronts with either Michelin or Continental? In fairness, it's probably a psychological issue rather than anything else as I'm not a big fan of Pirelli but do like t'other 2. Pricewise, there's, near as dammit, no difference the thing that's stopping me is that having the afore-mentioned mix of tyres would, like, make my teeth itch!
Any thoughts?
I personally wouldn't have a problem as you are going for / retaining premium rather than ditch-finder brands.My question is simply, is there any gain/point if I were to replace the fronts with either Michelin or Continental? In fairness, it's probably a psychological issue rather than anything else as I'm not a big fan of Pirelli but do like t'other 2. Pricewise, there's, near as dammit, no difference the thing that's stopping me is that having the afore-mentioned mix of tyres would, like, make my teeth itch!
Any thoughts?
As long as the tyres on the same chassis are the same brand I wouldn't see that as unusual.
And when you come to replace the rears you can go with the same brand as the ones you replaced with on the front
DodgyGeezer said:
My question is simply, is there any gain/point if I were to replace the fronts with either Michelin or Continental? In fairness, it's probably a psychological issue rather than anything else as I'm not a big fan of Pirelli but do like t'other 2. Pricewise, there's, near as dammit, no difference the thing that's stopping me is that having the afore-mentioned mix of tyres would, like, make my teeth itch!
No issue, as above, as long as the same brand/tyre type are not mixed on the same axle, then good to go.As it happens I much preferred P Zero or Conti, and have always disliked Michelin, which are great tyres when new up to half worn, but they then seem to 'go off' after that, and you end up binning tyres that still have 20% tread left.
On my 135i I used to run Nokian on the front and Conti on the rear for the winter tyres with no issue and P Zero all around for the summers.
Depends on how spiritedly your mrs drives.
If she just pootles, she likely won’t notice the difference.
If she goes anywhere near the limits of grip, she will.
I mixed tyres between front and rear axles, absolutely crapped myself on my first spirited drive and soon matched all 4 corners.
If she just pootles, she likely won’t notice the difference.
If she goes anywhere near the limits of grip, she will.
I mixed tyres between front and rear axles, absolutely crapped myself on my first spirited drive and soon matched all 4 corners.
wyson said:
Depends on how spiritedly your mrs drives.
If she just pootles, she likely won’t notice the difference.
If she goes anywhere near the limits of grip, she will.
This. My guess is she just pootles, in which case you could save £160 and put kumhos on.If she just pootles, she likely won’t notice the difference.
If she goes anywhere near the limits of grip, she will.
My boxster runs a mix of kumhos on the front and michelin ps4 on the rear, and... its absolutely fine. Including some trackdays. When the rears wear out, I'll put kumhos on to match the fronts. Personally I think midrange tyres are where the best value is for sure, especially if you don't drive like your hair is on fire.
brillomaster said:
wyson said:
Depends on how spiritedly your mrs drives.
If she just pootles, she likely won’t notice the difference.
If she goes anywhere near the limits of grip, she will.
This. My guess is she just pootles, in which case you could save £160 and put kumhos on.If she just pootles, she likely won’t notice the difference.
If she goes anywhere near the limits of grip, she will.
My boxster runs a mix of kumhos on the front and michelin ps4 on the rear, and... its absolutely fine. Including some trackdays. When the rears wear out, I'll put kumhos on to match the fronts. Personally I think midrange tyres are where the best value is for sure, especially if you don't drive like your hair is on fire.
DodgyGeezer said:
brillomaster said:
wyson said:
Depends on how spiritedly your mrs drives.
If she just pootles, she likely won’t notice the difference.
If she goes anywhere near the limits of grip, she will.
This. My guess is she just pootles, in which case you could save £160 and put kumhos on.If she just pootles, she likely won’t notice the difference.
If she goes anywhere near the limits of grip, she will.
My boxster runs a mix of kumhos on the front and michelin ps4 on the rear, and... its absolutely fine. Including some trackdays. When the rears wear out, I'll put kumhos on to match the fronts. Personally I think midrange tyres are where the best value is for sure, especially if you don't drive like your hair is on fire.
Regarding tyres, you will also push the limits of your tyres if you need to make an emergency stop or manouvre whether your fault or not i.e. shorter stopping distance or more grip if you need to swerve suddenly. I think there is value in considering this in addition to the 'driving it like you stole it' aspect.
Your tyres are the only thing connecting you to the road.
Dog Star said:
I wouldn’t do it simply because I can’t drive a car with different makes of tyre on different wheels. It properly messes with my OCD.
I probably should seek help.
Maybe we could get a busload of the similarly minded together and get bulk discount at the shrink.I probably should seek help.
I hate mixing tyres, family Golf had 4 new Goodyears fitted, 12 months later a non repairable puncture and said family had a ditchfinder fitted, my eyes are drawn to this 'thing' whenever they visit, note its wearing faster than its oppo too.
My truck wore its original drive axle tyres faster one side than t'other, it now sports two different makes each side of the drive axle until the other side wears down to 3mm, and yes i can tell the difference, the new are not in the same league as the originals despite all 4 being snowflake stamped all seasons.
Id say theres a greater difference in handling with part worn on one axel and new on another than variation between premium brands with like for like wear. So changing to what you fancy on the front would not really concern me in that situatiion.
Having said that I swapped the fronts on Mrs 21's so they are now all the same tyre all round and will be doing the same on mine before the winter.
Having said that I swapped the fronts on Mrs 21's so they are now all the same tyre all round and will be doing the same on mine before the winter.
Smint said:
Maybe we could get a busload of the similarly minded together and get bulk discount at the shrink.
I hate mixing tyres, family Golf had 4 new Goodyears fitted, 12 months later a non repairable puncture and said family had a ditchfinder fitted, my eyes are drawn to this 'thing' whenever they visit, note its wearing faster than its oppo too.
I’d join that, do a bit of group therapy. I’m even worse. I actually think less of people who run budget tyres, especially if they have a premium car. There is a Mercedes E63 S AMG near me with mismatched ditchfinders all round. Just makes my teeth itch seeing the tyres on that car. I have never seen the owner, and know nothing about him or her, but don’t have the best impression.I hate mixing tyres, family Golf had 4 new Goodyears fitted, 12 months later a non repairable puncture and said family had a ditchfinder fitted, my eyes are drawn to this 'thing' whenever they visit, note its wearing faster than its oppo too.
Also, I wouldn’t think twice about seeing a set of Kumho’s on a boggo family motor, but a Porsche… *sharp intake of breath
Edited by wyson on Friday 8th August 09:29
alscar said:
At the very least stick with N rated ( Porsche ) tyres especially given the car is still under warranty.
^^^^ Wot 'e said.Not worth the risk, if an expensive component in the drivetrain goes south and they claim it COULD have affected it you will be on the line for a MUCH bigger bill than a pair of tyres.
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I’d join that, do a bit of group therapy. I’m even worse. I actually think less of people who run budget tyres, especially if they have a premium car. There is a Mercedes E63 S AMG near me with mismatched ditchfinders all round. Just makes my teeth itch seeing the tyres on that car. I have never seen the owner, and know nothing about him or her, but don’t have the best impression.
Also, I wouldn’t think twice about seeing a set of Kumho’s on a boggo family motor, but a Porsche… *sharp intake of breath
Between us whats the betting we have the counselor checking his/her tyres after the first session and by the end of the second perusing online for the best deals in A wet rating known brands, by the end of the third planning to rotate.
Talking of Kumhos, just fitted my first ever set of that brand, their all season AT52 tyres that is to my ageing Landcruiser, Jon at Tyre Reviews tested them alongside a few others and noted how good they were in the wet, winning the wet grip tests.
So far so good, and after my first brim to brim fuel check even with my Mrs taking it for a 150 mile white knuckle drive yesterday i'm up 2mpg, result.
I’d join that, do a bit of group therapy. I’m even worse. I actually think less of people who run budget tyres, especially if they have a premium car. There is a Mercedes E63 S AMG near me with mismatched ditchfinders all round. Just makes my teeth itch seeing the tyres on that car. I have never seen the owner, and know nothing about him or her, but don’t have the best impression.
Also, I wouldn’t think twice about seeing a set of Kumho’s on a boggo family motor, but a Porsche… *sharp intake of breath
Edited by wyson on Friday 8th August 09:29
[/quoteBetween us whats the betting we have the counselor checking his/her tyres after the first session and by the end of the second perusing online for the best deals in A wet rating known brands, by the end of the third planning to rotate.
Talking of Kumhos, just fitted my first ever set of that brand, their all season AT52 tyres that is to my ageing Landcruiser, Jon at Tyre Reviews tested them alongside a few others and noted how good they were in the wet, winning the wet grip tests.
So far so good, and after my first brim to brim fuel check even with my Mrs taking it for a 150 mile white knuckle drive yesterday i'm up 2mpg, result.
wyson said:
I’d join that, do a bit of group therapy. I’m even worse. I actually think less of people who run budget tyres, especially if they have a premium car. There is a Mercedes E63 S AMG near me with mismatched ditchfinders all round. Just makes my teeth itch seeing the tyres on that car. I have never seen the owner, and know nothing about him or her, but don’t have the best impression.
Also, I wouldn’t think twice about seeing a set of Kumho’s on a boggo family motor, but a Porsche… *sharp intake of breath
A macan isn't really a porsche, it's a hot VAG car... so it's a mildly posh family motor, perfect for kumhos...Also, I wouldn’t think twice about seeing a set of Kumho’s on a boggo family motor, but a Porsche… *sharp intake of breath
Edited by wyson on Friday 8th August 09:29
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