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Pulled up beside a newish BMW in a car park, and (as you do) looked at the tyres - Never heard of Invovic, so i Googled them, and I find they are an Asda Budget Brand! 
Why would anyone put them on a newish BMW that cost around £49K? (330e for the initiated.)
Cheap skate doesn't really cover it ...
Why would anyone put them on a newish BMW that cost around £49K? (330e for the initiated.)
Cheap skate doesn't really cover it ...
MrSpanky49 said:
People are cheap. there’s a guy who can’t believe the p zeros for his Mercedes GLE are £350 a pop. He’s having budgets fitted.
I have never understood why people get caught out like that.When you buy a house do you check the council tax band? - Yes of course you do. (obviously I could go on/on with the analogies)
So why would you buy a car without checking the price of service/tax/tyres etc?
) was £250 per premium brand 4-season tyres like Michelin or Goodyear.CrgT16 said:
For the majority of people it doesn’t matter. Their driving awareness will not differentiate a good tyre from a budget one. Tires are legal and meet the minimum required standards.
I put the best I can afford but probably wasting my money for everyday driving at normal speeds.
You are of course correct.I put the best I can afford but probably wasting my money for everyday driving at normal speeds.
But then the situation we all hope never happens, the person in front of you will thank you forever when you can stop in the wet/cold before running them over.
I couldn't live with myself if I didn't either.
CrgT16 said:
For the majority of people it doesn’t matter. Their driving awareness will not differentiate a good tyre from a budget one. Tires are legal and meet the minimum required standards.
I put the best I can afford but probably wasting my money for everyday driving at normal speeds.
For all road users, it does matter. And in that emergency, it could make the differenceI put the best I can afford but probably wasting my money for everyday driving at normal speeds.
As for legality and standards....that is a huge part of the problem. There is a totally false labelling system, where there literally are no standards as manufacturers self proclaim their A, B, C etc
Which is quite bizarre, but I guess typical of EU and government bulls
tstevieturbo said:
CrgT16 said:
For the majority of people it doesn’t matter. Their driving awareness will not differentiate a good tyre from a budget one. Tires are legal and meet the minimum required standards.
I put the best I can afford but probably wasting my money for everyday driving at normal speeds.
For all road users, it does matter. And in that emergency, it could make the differenceI put the best I can afford but probably wasting my money for everyday driving at normal speeds.
As for legality and standards....that is a huge part of the problem. There is a totally false labelling system, where there literally are no standards as manufacturers self proclaim their A, B, C etc
Which is quite bizarre, but I guess typical of EU and government bulls
tWhat do the A/B/C etc wet grip figures actually mean, I have never found anything other than A is best etc, which to me (as a pedantic tw@t) is of no help at all.
E-bmw said:
I have to admit, you have made a point there that I have tried unsuccessfully many times to find the answer to.
What do the A/B/C etc wet grip figures actually mean, I have never found anything other than A is best etc, which to me (as a pedantic tw@t) is of no help at all.
I'm pretty sure Jon mentioned in one of his videos, the wet part is tested with a locked wheel, not even a tyre rotating. But manufacturers self declare.What do the A/B/C etc wet grip figures actually mean, I have never found anything other than A is best etc, which to me (as a pedantic tw@t) is of no help at all.
Of course, same with cheap rubbish tyres, we all know pretty much all aftermarket car parts can also be of extremely poor quality, whether brake pads or discs, suspension, bushes etc
There seems to be no regulation at all as to the quality. Yet when so called uprated or performance parts get fitted, there is outcry, tell insurance etc etc
But nobody cares about fitting totally substandard parts.
stevieturbo said:
For all road users, it does matter. And in that emergency, it could make the difference
As for legality and standards....that is a huge part of the problem. There is a totally false labelling system, where there literally are no standards as manufacturers self proclaim their A, B, C etc
Which is quite bizarre, but I guess typical of EU and government bullst
Incorrect, the EU loves a regulation and every aspect of it to be written down. Your posit would be the complete oposite of how the EU operates.As for legality and standards....that is a huge part of the problem. There is a totally false labelling system, where there literally are no standards as manufacturers self proclaim their A, B, C etc
Which is quite bizarre, but I guess typical of EU and government bulls
tThe labelling method and the test method used to specify the grading is very specifically legislated.
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do...
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF...
Krikkit said:
I agree but bloody hell £350 a corner is crazy
It was a gle 63s. I saw it in the car park on the way out, 73 plate, £120k motor and he stuck a pair of acceleras on the front. Absolutely baffling. Having checked the fronts are 285/40/22 and the OE Pirelli’s are quite pricey, but still.
It's surprising that with all the cars running around on budget tyres, that the ditches are not full of cars with dead bodies everywhere.
Or to put it another way for most people's driving, budget tyres are fine.
What is probably weirder is that people buy fast cars and never use any of the power available.
Or to put it another way for most people's driving, budget tyres are fine.
What is probably weirder is that people buy fast cars and never use any of the power available.
732NM said:
Incorrect, the EU loves a regulation and every aspect of it to be written down. Your posit would be the complete oposite of how the EU operates.
The labelling method and the test method used to specify the grading is very specifically legislated.
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do...
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF...
Then clearly not audited or, enforced. Or maybe the EU members involved get back, handers ? EU loves that too.The labelling method and the test method used to specify the grading is very specifically legislated.
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do...
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF...
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