Best tyres on back?
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NRG1976

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2,047 posts

27 months

Yesterday (17:50)
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FWD hatchback, my daughter got some new “front” tyres from Costco and they put the “new front” ones on the back axle and moved the old rear axle tyres to the front axle.

I’m assuming that is because they are worried about oversteer or something - is that a normal and sensible thing to do?

Most tyre places I’ve gone to simply change the tyres on the axle and that’s it!

Thanks

Rough101

2,748 posts

92 months

Yesterday (17:53)
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Yeah, that’s Costco’s policy, which mirrors Michelins advice, they’d rather the car understeered than spun when aquaplaning

Pica-Pica

15,385 posts

101 months

Yesterday (18:41)
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Correct, and well done them.
FWD, RWD, AWD it's best tyres on the rear.

NRG1976

Original Poster:

2,047 posts

27 months

Yesterday (19:19)
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Thank you, all good then! Appreciate the reassurance.

Riley Blue

22,524 posts

243 months

Yesterday (19:27)
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I've just done the same, new tyres to the back. When I took the car in for a MOT re-test today the inspector looked at the fronts first, perhaps that's what they expect, wrong though it is.

RacingStripes

587 posts

47 months

Yesterday (21:30)
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Ignoring the "oversteer, understeer" bks you are stupid not to put the new ones on the rear purely so you dont end up with 15 year old rear tyres that have just been trundling along for 150k.

If you have a matching spare wheel you should chuck that in the rotation too.

Roboticarm

1,606 posts

78 months

Yesterday (21:47)
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Front wheel drive... Best tyres on the front !
Front does the steering and gives the traction, rear just along for the ride.

RacingStripes

587 posts

47 months

Yesterday (21:51)
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Roboticarm said:
Front wheel drive... Best tyres on the front !
Front does the steering and gives the traction, rear just along for the ride.
So when you're on your 5th set of fronts and the rears are 10 years old you think thats sensible?

heebeegeetee

29,653 posts

265 months

Yesterday (21:53)
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Roboticarm said:
Front wheel drive... Best tyres on the front !
Front does the steering and gives the traction, rear just along for the ride.
Google it, and I think you'll find every tyre manufacturer and every tyre authority will disagree with you.

It's been done to death, new tyres always on the back. You've got it wrong re your thoughts on what rear tyres do, fwd or not.

ecsrobin

18,304 posts

182 months

Yesterday (21:57)
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Roboticarm said:
Front wheel drive... Best tyres on the front !
Front does the steering and gives the traction, rear just along for the ride.
That’s exactly why the best tyres should be on the rear.

Panamax

6,807 posts

51 months

Yesterday (21:58)
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RacingStripes said:
So when you're on your 5th set of fronts and the rears are 10 years old you think that's sensible?
Don't be such a tight-wad. Just replace the rears after 5 years.

I'm with Roboticam. In FWD I want decent tyres on the front, where the action's going on.

kambites

69,914 posts

238 months

Yesterday (22:00)
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Best approach is to regularly rotate the tyres so they all wear and hence all get replaced at the same time.

As others have said, the next best thing is to put the better tyres, or at least the tyres which are best at dispersing standing water, on the rear. This is especially important on front-engined FWD cars which tend to have very little weight over the rear wheels and hence more tendency to aquaplane there.

RacingStripes

587 posts

47 months

Yesterday (22:02)
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Panamax said:
Don't be such a tight-wad. Just replace the rears after 5 years.

I'm with Roboticam. In FWD I want decent tyres on the front, where the action's going on.
Just how reckless are you driving on the road?

Panamax

6,807 posts

51 months

Yesterday (22:08)
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RacingStripes said:
Just how reckless are you driving on the road?
The back of my cars has never overtaken the front. If you've had difficulty in that regard I can understand your caution.

M4cruiser

4,530 posts

167 months

Yesterday (22:15)
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Panamax said:
I'm with Roboticam. In FWD I want decent tyres on the front, where the action's going on.
You haven't thought this through.
After you've had your car 3 months, the front tyres (which wear out quicker) will be worse than the rear ones.
So did you swap them round?

heebeegeetee

29,653 posts

265 months

Yesterday (22:23)
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Panamax said:
RacingStripes said:
Just how reckless are you driving on the road?
The back of my cars has never overtaken the front. If you've had difficulty in that regard I can understand your caution.
Nevertheless, you're still going again industry standard practice of the manufacturers of tyres, who do a bazillion miles of testing in every weather condition every year.

Panamax

6,807 posts

51 months

Yesterday (22:26)
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Roboticarm said:
Front wheel drive... Best tyres on the front !
Front does the steering and gives the traction, rear just along for the ride.
It seems we're in the minority here. May I enquire, how often has the AA needed to rescue you from a ditch?

NortonES2

458 posts

65 months

Yesterday (22:29)
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And when you have staggered wheels you might have new tyres on the front or the rear depending which needs replacing.

NDNDNDND

2,462 posts

200 months

You're more likely to need maximum braking performance than you are to fight oversteer - particularly in modern cars with stability control.

Therefore best tyres should be on the front, the industry advice on this is bizarre nonsense.

When they're part worn, swap to the back so the best tyres are always on the front, then aim to swap all four simultaneously.

Anything else is just daft.


Checkmate

735 posts

224 months

Best tyres on the front, always. Especially front wheel drive cars. On FWD cars the fronts are doing the power, steering, and almost all of the braking.
Slippy conditions? Use power with your grippy fronts to help. Braking? You want the ones with the most tread. And the fronts do most of the braking. Avoiding a thing? Being able to steer is very good. What are your rear wheels doing here? I feel catching a slightly wayward rear is much easier than a nose that wants to go straight on because you have pap tyres on the front.
I've driven hot hatches for the last 20 years, I'd like to think I'm ok at it.

Think it's the same for the RWD and 4WD cars I have had before, too. Front tyres where lots is going on is more important.