Factory Tyre Longevity
Discussion
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Watching an American guy on YT with a ' 23 plate AWD Sportage with 100K [ yeah, I know] and he said the factory tyres were replaced at 64K miles. Cheesy Peas, I could barely get 30K on the from new factory front tyres on my Puma.
Is it that the AWD shares the wear evenly to all four tyres, or KIa fit quality tyres, or his state doesn't have compulsory annual vehicle checks and he runs 'em buggers down to the rims ? Where can I buy these tyres ?
Watching an American guy on YT with a ' 23 plate AWD Sportage with 100K [ yeah, I know] and he said the factory tyres were replaced at 64K miles. Cheesy Peas, I could barely get 30K on the from new factory front tyres on my Puma.
Is it that the AWD shares the wear evenly to all four tyres, or KIa fit quality tyres, or his state doesn't have compulsory annual vehicle checks and he runs 'em buggers down to the rims ? Where can I buy these tyres ?
Warhavernet said:
I'll leave it to Mods to move this should it require.
Watching an American guy on YT with a ' 23 plate AWD Sportage with 100K [ yeah, I know] and he said the factory tyres were replaced at 64K miles. Cheesy Peas, I could barely get 30K on the from new factory front tyres on my Puma.
Is it that the AWD shares the wear evenly to all four tyres, or KIa fit quality tyres, or his state doesn't have compulsory annual vehicle checks and he runs 'em buggers down to the rims ? Where can I buy these tyres ?
I replaced the 4 rear tyres on my truck a couple of weeks ago.Watching an American guy on YT with a ' 23 plate AWD Sportage with 100K [ yeah, I know] and he said the factory tyres were replaced at 64K miles. Cheesy Peas, I could barely get 30K on the from new factory front tyres on my Puma.
Is it that the AWD shares the wear evenly to all four tyres, or KIa fit quality tyres, or his state doesn't have compulsory annual vehicle checks and he runs 'em buggers down to the rims ? Where can I buy these tyres ?
Bought new, the recorded mileage was exactly 89200. They still had life in them, only a puncture forced the decision.
It does happen.
Warhavernet said:
I'll leave it to Mods to move this should it require.
Watching an American guy on YT with a ' 23 plate AWD Sportage with 100K [ yeah, I know] and he said the factory tyres were replaced at 64K miles. Cheesy Peas, I could barely get 30K on the from new factory front tyres on my Puma.
Is it that the AWD shares the wear evenly to all four tyres, or KIa fit quality tyres, or his state doesn't have compulsory annual vehicle checks and he runs 'em buggers down to the rims ? Where can I buy these tyres ?
From Jon's video's on YT, it sounds like the US has rules about tyre longevity, so the compounds are different than here etc.Watching an American guy on YT with a ' 23 plate AWD Sportage with 100K [ yeah, I know] and he said the factory tyres were replaced at 64K miles. Cheesy Peas, I could barely get 30K on the from new factory front tyres on my Puma.
Is it that the AWD shares the wear evenly to all four tyres, or KIa fit quality tyres, or his state doesn't have compulsory annual vehicle checks and he runs 'em buggers down to the rims ? Where can I buy these tyres ?
Although also from a lot of stuff from the US....it almost sounds like there are no real rules so not sure when they consider a tyre actually bad to need replaced.
I certainly don't get the impression it's the 1.6mm or anything like it. It nearly sounds like a lot run them literally til the rubber is gone
K87 said:
A general question, is the Treadwear number on the sidewall, usually starting at around 200 a genuine indicator of how many miles a tyre might cover?
Yes, but, no, but.I think they are relative rather than absolute.
As in a Bridgestone tyre with 400 will likely last double the mileage (all else being equal) a tyre with 200 rating.
Variety of the points mentioned, tyre compounds being one, who can remember old P6000s or assorted Michelin's? Lousy grip but would go on and on and on, I had a set of p6000s on an old 924s which being tight i refused to change as they were pretty much full tread despite being the best part of 20 years old, they just never wore out, deadly in the cold and wet, now I'm lucky to get a couple of years out of a set of tyres before they are cracking on the side walls, thankfully I wear them out reasonably quickly so it's not the end of the world.
But the American roads are generally in far better condition than ours, where I live in Yorkshire the roads are getting embarrassing, we were in York yesterday it looks like the RAF have been practicing runway denial bombing. A few years ago we did 8500 miles around the east side of America and I can honestly say I saw one pothole of note. Granted it was in the middle lane of a freeway, no warning other than Waze and would have ripped a wheel off, but I've seen half a dozen potholes this morning on my 8 mile commute.
Lack of roundabouts will make a difference too, despite what people think there are no shortage of corners in America, there are a few of the worlds best driving roads and drives there for a start, but the almost complete absence of roundabouts is great, and that combined with a decent standard of driving at least in the sense they want to get moving, cover the distance and not be constantly stopping removes the constant accelerate/brake driving we have here in the UK. I suspect France probably gets good distance out of tyres too, their motorway system is absolutely excellent allowing big mileage in short times with little stress or hassle.
If we cared about co2 emissions in this country we would have focussed a long time ago on keeping cars moving instead of "traffic calming". But all we seem to want to do is make the road system as hard and frustrating to use as possible.
But the American roads are generally in far better condition than ours, where I live in Yorkshire the roads are getting embarrassing, we were in York yesterday it looks like the RAF have been practicing runway denial bombing. A few years ago we did 8500 miles around the east side of America and I can honestly say I saw one pothole of note. Granted it was in the middle lane of a freeway, no warning other than Waze and would have ripped a wheel off, but I've seen half a dozen potholes this morning on my 8 mile commute.
Lack of roundabouts will make a difference too, despite what people think there are no shortage of corners in America, there are a few of the worlds best driving roads and drives there for a start, but the almost complete absence of roundabouts is great, and that combined with a decent standard of driving at least in the sense they want to get moving, cover the distance and not be constantly stopping removes the constant accelerate/brake driving we have here in the UK. I suspect France probably gets good distance out of tyres too, their motorway system is absolutely excellent allowing big mileage in short times with little stress or hassle.
If we cared about co2 emissions in this country we would have focussed a long time ago on keeping cars moving instead of "traffic calming". But all we seem to want to do is make the road system as hard and frustrating to use as possible.
wildoliver said:
If we cared about co2 emissions in this country we would have focussed a long time ago on keeping cars moving instead of "traffic calming". But all we seem to want to do is make the road system as hard and frustrating to use as possible.
100% agree with that one.I have often said the most efficient cars are those either parked up or moving at an efficient speed, whereas we have adopted the "tax them off the road/make it difficult" approach to road/vehicle management.
Milkyway said:
Kawasicki said:
Define tyre quality. If tyre quality means 100k miles then that is reasonably easy for tyre manufacturers to achieve.
100K miles or five years...whichever come first. 
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