Which bake calipers?
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carboy0

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28 posts

216 months

Wednesday 15th August 2007
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I need some help, I know someone here will know. I want to upgrade my old two pot front calipers (Girling Type 14 LF) and replace them with modern single pot calipers.

My query is about the mounting lug spacings. I have bought a number of different calipers (Ebay) in the hope that the carrier frames have the same spacing but they don't - does anyone know of a single pot caliper and carrier that will match the Girling calipers' mounting lugs? There must be a changeover car out there where the early ones had old style 2 pots and the later ones switched to single piston design?

FYI - the following don't fit - VW Golf GTi Mk3, VW Passat, Mondeo Mk2 - all too wide. Cavalier Mk3 too narrow.

The car is a Morris Marina 1.8 Coupe - I don't mind if I have to go to bigger wheels, the key is the mounting lug spacings at present.

Chris

Edited by carboy0 on Wednesday 15th August 13:25

carboy0

Original Poster:

28 posts

216 months

Wednesday 15th August 2007
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Yes I know - I can't spell.

Chris

BB-Q

1,697 posts

226 months

Thursday 23rd August 2007
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How about letting us in on the spacing?

The hot conversion always used to be four pot Princess calipers.

I'd take a stab at Mk3 Escort, but without some info from you i can't ask the right people and try and help you.

Need disc diameter and caliper hole spacing, please (and even thenI give no promises).

carboy0

Original Poster:

28 posts

216 months

Thursday 23rd August 2007
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Hi

Yes I was trying to wing it without measuring up. I know that they are the same bolt spacing as Princess calipers because I offered a borrowed one up when I had the standard calipers off for some new seals. I am already running EBC Greenstuff and braided hoses.

The standard disks are weedy at 10mm solid and 247mm diameter. I have used the Brembo website catalogue to identify either Ford Focus 22mm thinkness 256mm diameter disks or Mazda MX5 Mk2 20mm thickness and 255mm diameter vented disks as options. I reckon that I should still get them inside my alloy 13" wheels.

I'll measure the mounting bolt spacing at the weekend and report back

Chris

BB-Q

1,697 posts

226 months

Thursday 23rd August 2007
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I'm guessing they'll be the standard 3.5" spacing, in which case get yourself over to the Wilwood website and start drooling.

It should also be noted that Wilwood are an American company and that there are $2 to £1 at the moment. I can also put you in touch with a rally guy/engine builder in Seattle who's also a Wilwood supplier and is very reasonable on price.

carboy0

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28 posts

216 months

Wednesday 29th August 2007
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Yup - 3.5" spacing on the lug mounts. The Wilwood stuff is V sexy - but will they be OK for road use as I don't think they have dust seals do they?

Chris

rustyspit

462 posts

220 months

Wednesday 26th September 2007
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These chaps do an alloy caliper in the princess mount spacing which I think has dust seals:

http://www.hispecmotorsport.co.uk/ 

They've been fitted to a few Spitfires (which I think have type 14 calipers).

carboy0

Original Poster:

28 posts

216 months

Thursday 27th September 2007
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Thanks for the link to Hispec - I'll follow up and feedback later.

Tam Lin

694 posts

269 months

Friday 28th September 2007
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carboy0 said:
Yup - 3.5" spacing on the lug mounts. The Wilwood stuff is V sexy - but will they be OK for road use as I don't think they have dust seals do they?

Chris
Some do some don't. I have Wilwood DynaPros on my Porsche 924S front, and they have dust shields, you can also get service kits etc etc. Good brakes, IMHO