Paint repair with rattle cans?
Discussion
Is this a ridiculous idea? My snotter has some serious paint flaking on the o/s/r door and tailgate - I guess it's had a real bad respray at some point. Flaking right down to bare metal.
Apart from the fact that once I start rubbing it down I might remove the entire coat of paint from the whole car
is it possible to obtain a reasonable finish with rattle cans?
Apart from the fact that once I start rubbing it down I might remove the entire coat of paint from the whole car
is it possible to obtain a reasonable finish with rattle cans?I was in a very similar position myself although I also a fairly large amount of filler to add to the mix.
My end result rather suggests its a bad idea. A very bad idea in fact, hence why 12 months on the rust has returned and the car is booked into a bodyshop.
I have no issue on basic maintenance tasks but getting the body shape correct and blending the paintwork - I just couldn't get close.
One friend descried the result as more vandalism than repair.
However it saved me having to spend the money 12 months ago and as I looked at it there was minimal scope to make the car look any worse. I do accept that I managed this feat though....
For reference I painted the car outside - between snow showers.
Do post pics if you give it a go!
My end result rather suggests its a bad idea. A very bad idea in fact, hence why 12 months on the rust has returned and the car is booked into a bodyshop.
I have no issue on basic maintenance tasks but getting the body shape correct and blending the paintwork - I just couldn't get close.
One friend descried the result as more vandalism than repair.
However it saved me having to spend the money 12 months ago and as I looked at it there was minimal scope to make the car look any worse. I do accept that I managed this feat though....
For reference I painted the car outside - between snow showers.
Do post pics if you give it a go!
Depends on the colour. I've only done it once, on a flat turquoise finish and it came out really well, although I wouldn't be s confident on metallics. My technique was to spray in quick semi circular sweeps, making sure to start spraying before you reach the panel and release after you've passed the panel
odyssey2200 said:
The worst that can happen is that you waste the cost of a rattle can.
The car needs painting so if you make a complete horlicks of it , it still needs repainting.
This was my thought The car needs painting so if you make a complete horlicks of it , it still needs repainting.
There's no rust underneath (yet - it will obviously rust if it's left) and I can't possibly devalue the car in doing so (but it's not worth enough to let someone else do it!)
No matt black or such nonsense here - it's silver and I'd like it to remain so
Teocali - do you have photos?
Have done plenty including complete panels and bigger, the results will mirror the time and effort you put in to preparation,application and finishing. Some of my results are seriously good and most people would not be able to spot the rattle can finish, in some cases its better than the factory paint (less orange peel). I recommend paints4u.com as a good source of paint as i've found there match to a paintcode excellent.
Kiltox said:
Teocali - do you have photos?
I would like to point out a few things:1 - I am not proud of this effort and post the image only as a warning to others who (like me) have more enthusiasm than ability. Sadly the scale of the gap between the two wasn't fully apparent until I had completed the work.
2 - I did remove the worst of the overspray and add lacquer a few months after this picture, but I have no images.
From the responses so far it would appear I am in the minority, and I have to admit that as the car was bought as a stop gap I didn't spend the time I should have doing the prep work.
But I would like to point out that you can cause a lot more damage as you can see in the picture I managed to attack a perfectly good bumper whilst sanding - happy days!
Rear Quater by mongooseteocali, on Flickr
Whenever I get a customer bringing in a car that has had the DIY treatment, I have to add more to the bill as I know it will take me more time in preparation and I'll have to work a larger area than would have been necessary if the car had been repaired professionally in the first place. Your choice.
Cheers
David
SMART Repairer
Fixed site & mobile
Cheers
David
SMART Repairer
Fixed site & mobile
Kiltox said:
For both of you that are no doubt trying to drum up some kind of business - it's a £750 car, it is not worth the time of a professional.
I think that's a very uncharitable thing to say. You didn't give the age or value of the car in your OP. You asked for opinions, if you don't like the answers, don't ask. I have no idea where you live, so how will I profit from giving my time and experience to answer your question? David
Vette said:
I think that's a very uncharitable thing to say. You didn't give the age or value of the car in your OP. You asked for opinions, if you don't like the answers, don't ask. I have no idea where you live, so how will I profit from giving my time and experience to answer your question?
David
Ditto, i don't even do paintwork anymore was just giving an opinion based on experience.David
Vette said:
Kiltox said:
For both of you that are no doubt trying to drum up some kind of business - it's a £750 car, it is not worth the time of a professional.
I think that's a very uncharitable thing to say. You didn't give the age or value of the car in your OP. You asked for opinions, if you don't like the answers, don't ask. I have no idea where you live, so how will I profit from giving my time and experience to answer your question? David
Some people post a question but then don't really deserve the help that's offered.
Silvers are the most difficult colour to blend - as an amateur using cheap products your job won't be unnoticeable .... no matter how much time and effort you put into it.
You may as well go buy a good quality paint brush and a tin of smooth silver hammerite. The results will be quick, the colour match/blend will be about the same as you'd achieve with a can ... all you've gotta do is concentrate on the finish.
Squiggs said:
You may as well go buy a good quality paint brush and a tin of smooth silver hammerite. The results will be quick, the colour match/blend will be about the same as you'd achieve with a can ... all you've gotta do is concentrate on the finish.
Close the thread - solution found.
I did a repair on my previous company car when I backed into a post. It was an area about the size of an A4 piece of paper, filled, primered, base coat and laquer. It wasn't a bad job at all and wasn't picked up on when the lease finished, so must have been half decent. It just takes a bit of practice, patience and decent weather if you're forced to do this outside as I was.
Can't find the photos now, but I did a similar repair on holiday once to a hire car rather than get shafted by the hire company for repair charges. Try finding mettalic black paint, laquer and other materials in a Spainish speaking country when you don't speak the lingo (lucky my OH does, but she wasn't too familar with what I was asking for). Managed to do an acceptable repair using gloss black, silver paint (for the metallic) and clear laquer, plus various cleaning products in place of the usual compounds,etc that we found in the villa's cleaning cupboard.
Can't find the photos now, but I did a similar repair on holiday once to a hire car rather than get shafted by the hire company for repair charges. Try finding mettalic black paint, laquer and other materials in a Spainish speaking country when you don't speak the lingo (lucky my OH does, but she wasn't too familar with what I was asking for). Managed to do an acceptable repair using gloss black, silver paint (for the metallic) and clear laquer, plus various cleaning products in place of the usual compounds,etc that we found in the villa's cleaning cupboard.
OldSkoolRS said:
I did a repair on my previous company car when I backed into a post. It was an area about the size of an A4 piece of paper, filled, primered, base coat and laquer. It wasn't a bad job at all and wasn't picked up on when the lease finished, so must have been half decent. It just takes a bit of practice, patience and decent weather if you're forced to do this outside as I was.
Can't find the photos now, but I did a similar repair on holiday once to a hire car rather than get shafted by the hire company for repair charges. Try finding mettalic black paint, laquer and other materials in a Spainish speaking country when you don't speak the lingo (lucky my OH does, but she wasn't too familar with what I was asking for). Managed to do an acceptable repair using gloss black, silver paint (for the metallic) and clear laquer, plus various cleaning products in place of the usual compounds,etc that we found in the villa's cleaning cupboard.
Nice work! Can't find the photos now, but I did a similar repair on holiday once to a hire car rather than get shafted by the hire company for repair charges. Try finding mettalic black paint, laquer and other materials in a Spainish speaking country when you don't speak the lingo (lucky my OH does, but she wasn't too familar with what I was asking for). Managed to do an acceptable repair using gloss black, silver paint (for the metallic) and clear laquer, plus various cleaning products in place of the usual compounds,etc that we found in the villa's cleaning cupboard.
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