Cleaning - Am I applying in the right order?
Cleaning - Am I applying in the right order?
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wolfy1988

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1,426 posts

183 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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Hey

Just got a Black FTO and I want to spend the day cleaning it.

So these are the products I have and the order I would apply them:

1)Turtle Wax - Zip Wax - Two bucket wash
2)T-Cut for Black cars.
3)G3 Professional Paint Renovator
4)AutoGlym Super Resin Polish.

For Tyres/Rubber, I use Turtle-Wax - Wet'n'Black.

Are these the right steps? or are steps 2&3 cancelling each other out?

J

Dog Star

17,167 posts

188 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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You'll need a wax after the polish

wolfy1988

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1,426 posts

183 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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Dog Star said:
You'll need a wax after the polish
Can you recommend a good one?

IAJO

231 posts

178 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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i'd start with a rinse first to remove large loose particles. (I use a watering can)

Cupramax

10,863 posts

272 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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Why are you going to t-cut it? Is the paint faded? SRP should be sufficient if not, this has a fine cutting action itself.

Roadru77er

473 posts

215 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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wolfy1988 said:
Can you recommend a good one?
Collinite

NotDave

20,951 posts

177 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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if it were me, I'd do the following on a black car:

1) wash with a fairly decent shampoo
2) rinse
3) dry
4) tackle any scratches/dodgy areas with something like G3 cutting compound
5) tar remover and or paint renovator on any areas that are looking shonky
6) all over with autoglym. Now for dark cars I used to, mix ULTRA DEEP SHINE (made for black cars) with SUPER RESIN POLISH. Probably about 50/50. A mate in the paint trade recommended it, and it works a treat.
7) Autoglym High Def carnuba wax all over.
8) FAST GLASS (AG) the glass to ensure all grime gone.
9) glass polish
10) CarPlan Nano. Some hate it. Me? I love it as it protects well in towns like ours where the rain is filthy and orange.

It's like a silicone based watery stuff. Just pour onto a cloth, and rub ALL OVER the car. Plastics, windows (barring front screen) and the paint.



Enjoy the shine.

wolfy1988

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1,426 posts

183 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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Cupramax said:
Why are you going to t-cut it? Is the paint faded? SRP should be sufficient if not, this has a fine cutting action itself.
Not in the slightest, I thought process was to fill in any small scratches that a black car cant hide, the bodywork is in remarkable condition but it does have a few very fine scratches.

tomwoodis

570 posts

204 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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wolfy1988 said:
Dog Star said:
You'll need a wax after the polish
Can you recommend a good one?
Take a look at a product by Collinite (SP?) in 476 variant. Used it the other day after using Super Resin polish and can confirm it's excellent. You'll have to mail order it though it's not something you can get in halfords.

CraigMST

9,080 posts

185 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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Depends what products you have?
If you have a pressure washer spray the car first getting loose dirt off the car.
- clean wheels first, I use bilberry wheel cleaner. Great product.
- Get 2 buckets, fill one with the car shampoo, one with just warm water.
- Use a lamb wool mitt over all panels starting top to bottom
- spray car down again
- dry
- use the Autoglym super resin polish
- preferably get a wax like dodo jucice purple haze of blue velvet for a black car.

Just a basic guide.

wolfy1988

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1,426 posts

183 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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Ok so I will skip the T-Cut.

Should I still go ahead and use the G3 Pro Paint Renovator?

kambites

70,288 posts

241 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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wolfy1988 said:
Cupramax said:
Why are you going to t-cut it? Is the paint faded? SRP should be sufficient if not, this has a fine cutting action itself.
Not in the slightest, I thought process was to fill in any small scratches that a black car cant hide, the bodywork is in remarkable condition but it does have a few very fine scratches.
T-Cut doesn't "fill in" anything, it cuts the top layer of paint off to remove any shallow scratches or discolouration.

Andy665

4,025 posts

248 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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T-Cut is not friendly to paintwork, my order would be:

1. Wash
2. Clay
3. Fill in any stonechips and wetsand
4. Megs Correction Compound with DA cutting disc
5. Poorboys Black Hole glaze
6. Sealant

Plus all the usual plastics / rubbers / glass etc

CraigMST

9,080 posts

185 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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tomwoodis said:
wolfy1988 said:
Dog Star said:
You'll need a wax after the polish
Can you recommend a good one?
Take a look at a product by Collinite (SP?) in 476 variant. Used it the other day after using Super Resin polish and can confirm it's excellent. You'll have to mail order it though it's not something you can get in halfords.
Here's collinite from a trusted seller.
http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/wax/collinite-476s-s...

wolfy1988

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1,426 posts

183 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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OK I will order some Wax

So, out of the products I have, what order would you apply them?

1)Turtle Wax - Zip Wax
2)T-Cut for Black cars.
3)G3 Professional Paint Renovator
4)AutoGlym Super Resin Polish.

Cupramax

10,863 posts

272 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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I'd second the Collinite 476 as excellent.

plenty

5,036 posts

206 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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Both T-Cut and G3 are very aggressive compounds that are only used for heavy correction.

The rule of thumb, particularly as you have said that your paint is already in decent condition, is to start as light as possible and only progress to more aggressive products if you know you definitely need them. You certainly won't need both T-Cut and G3 and probably don't need either of them.

From your list I would go wash, then SRP, then wax or sealant to finish. You might want to use a clay bar as well between the wash and SRP stages.

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

270 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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Andy665 said:
T-Cut is not friendly to paintwork, my order would be:

1. Wash
2. Clay
3. Fill in any stonechips and wetsand
4. Megs Correction Compound with DA cutting disc
5. Poorboys Black Hole glaze
6. Sealant

Plus all the usual plastics / rubbers / glass etc
I'm sorry, what?! A guy who (and I say this with the greatest respect to the OP) is obviously new to detailing and car cleaning and so wants to do a good job, you've just suggested that he wetsands his car?

monthefish

20,467 posts

251 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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Am I the only one that can't get on with AutoGlym Super Resin Polish?

I've always found it's a lot of hard work for fairly average results (and white residue everywhere)

NotDave

20,951 posts

177 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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monthefish said:
Am I the only one that can't get on with AutoGlym Super Resin Polish?

I've always found it's a lot of hard work for fairly average results (and white residue everywhere)
If mixed with UDS it's better. Or the glaze AG product, name escapes me