High build primer to cover old paint/filler/metal etc?

[rumpelstiltskin]

Restoring an old Jag and im looking for an idiot proof high build primer that will basically bond to, cover everything!There's bare metal, filler and other paint of unknown type.Any suggestions welcome, thanks!

[V8covin]

pretty much any 2K primer will do that.....or to be on the safe side use an epoxy first

[Quattromaster]

If old paint is still on there, maybe a coat of barcoat sealer would be advisable, save any aggro later on in job.

http://www.alloypaints.com/isolate-it-rfu-paint-se...

[V8covin]

Quattromaster said:

If old paint is still on there, maybe a coat of barcoat sealer would be advisable, save any aggro later on in job.

http://www.alloypaints.com/isolate-it-rfu-paint-se...

Don't even go there.
That's a 1K product.
You want products that cure by chemical reaction not solvent evaporation.

[Quattromaster]

V8covin said:

Don't even go there.
That's a 1K product.
You want products that cure by chemical reaction not solvent evaporation.

But far safer for the OP to use, I'm guessing he doesn't have access to spray booths and air fed masks, which you really need when using 2k.

[V8covin]

Quattromaster said:

But far safer for the OP to use, I'm guessing he doesn't have access to spray booths and air fed masks, which you really need when using 2k.

No you don't,there's plenty of masks available for non pros,3M's do one for 20 quid or so that's good for 20 hours worth of spraying 2K

[Quattromaster]

V8covin said:

No you don't,there's plenty of masks available for non pros,3M's do one for 20 quid or so that's good for 20 hours worth of spraying 2K

Have you a link to the 3m mask, really interested in them, because as far as I know there is only one make of "throw away" mask, approved for 2k products and it's not made by 3m.

I spend almost 10k a month with 3m and they tell me they don't recommend any of there masks for 2k use, heads will roll if you know otherwise.

[7even]

As far as I know Gerson are the only manufacturer bold enough to claim to have a mask that is capable of handling 2k products, Provided you follow the tds.

[Quattromaster]

7even said:

As far as I know Gerson are the only manufacturer bold enough to claim to have a mask that is capable of handling 2k products, Provided you follow the tds.

That's my understanding as well.

[mneame]

Aren't there also laws / restrictions on using 2k outside of a booth / near the public as well?

[7even]

mneame said:

Aren't there also laws / restrictions on using 2k outside of a booth / near the public as well?

For spraying there's just HSE guidelines, 2k shouldn't be used outdoors.

[V8covin]

I can't give you a link but at least 2 of my local suppliers stock them,I'll try and get a part number....I don't use them myself,maybe they aren't 3M but they are definitely sold as being for 2K.

The mask I use is a 3M one,it's more expensive and has replacement filters,if I remember I'll get the part number tomorrow.
I still stand by my advice about 1k 'barcoat'.In it's day when that was all there was I used it myself,but any 2K primer will be far superior.
Plenty of diy-ers spray 2k at home in their garages on an occasional basis by the way

ps just re-read your post quattro and you admit to knowing about a throwaway 2k mask so I don't see the big deal about recommeding 2k products to a non professional....assuming the op is that

[V8covin]

You were right,I was wrong,it is Gerson,model 8000E

the 3M mask I use is a 7502 mask with 06915 vapour cartridges and 06925 particles filters