PH members definition of chavvy cars.
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I've come across a few threads on this forum similar to the following one one:
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
What do you guys mean when you say "chavvy car" and how do you apply it to the likes of brabus? It seems a car with aerodynamic improvements is considered chavvy to some on here, so would that apply to the ferrari fxx? Also have described the Audi led lights as chavvy, so I'm assuming the members on here believe they have more discerning taste than that of the Audi designers who introduced them to the mainstream, and Mercedes and ect have subsequently followed. Also, how about the night lights on the roof of the interior of the rolls royce?
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
What do you guys mean when you say "chavvy car" and how do you apply it to the likes of brabus? It seems a car with aerodynamic improvements is considered chavvy to some on here, so would that apply to the ferrari fxx? Also have described the Audi led lights as chavvy, so I'm assuming the members on here believe they have more discerning taste than that of the Audi designers who introduced them to the mainstream, and Mercedes and ect have subsequently followed. Also, how about the night lights on the roof of the interior of the rolls royce?
On PH i take Chavvy to be used in almost any circumstance where a poster doesn't like something/someone but cannot offer a decent explanation.
The number of cars that are deemed chav and yet using my preferred definition (scum) of a chav 99.99% would never be able to get anywhere close to owning one so I don't know why someone who can would be worried about being associated with them.
Then there are those who think a chav is someone wealthy with different tastes to them, anyone who isn't a higher rate tax payer , anyone who lives in an estate , modifies their car, wears a hoodie, owns a pitbull dog etc etc
The number of cars that are deemed chav and yet using my preferred definition (scum) of a chav 99.99% would never be able to get anywhere close to owning one so I don't know why someone who can would be worried about being associated with them.
Then there are those who think a chav is someone wealthy with different tastes to them, anyone who isn't a higher rate tax payer , anyone who lives in an estate , modifies their car, wears a hoodie, owns a pitbull dog etc etc
Quite interesting as it means different things to different people.
There is some kind of Focus (ST)? that lives near me, it is a lime green colour and in my opinion that is just about as chavvy as it gets, also a S3 in a beyond terrible orange colour, both these cars make me want to /facepalm, but the person that owns them obviously thinks they are cool.
I work in the oil industry and in my office white cars are reffered to as "oil chav white" - most of the cars are no less than a year or two old and cost a lot of money but are still considered chavvy (usually have black wheels also)= Range rover sport/Porsche boxster/4 series BMW etc etc
There is some kind of Focus (ST)? that lives near me, it is a lime green colour and in my opinion that is just about as chavvy as it gets, also a S3 in a beyond terrible orange colour, both these cars make me want to /facepalm, but the person that owns them obviously thinks they are cool.
I work in the oil industry and in my office white cars are reffered to as "oil chav white" - most of the cars are no less than a year or two old and cost a lot of money but are still considered chavvy (usually have black wheels also)= Range rover sport/Porsche boxster/4 series BMW etc etc
Jim909 said:
Quite interesting as it means different things to different people.
There is some kind of Focus (ST)? that lives near me, it is a lime green colour and in my opinion that is just about as chavvy as it gets, also a S3 in a beyond terrible orange colour, both these cars make me want to /facepalm, but the person that owns them obviously thinks they are cool.
The green thing will be an RS like mine. It's phenomenally tasteless!There is some kind of Focus (ST)? that lives near me, it is a lime green colour and in my opinion that is just about as chavvy as it gets, also a S3 in a beyond terrible orange colour, both these cars make me want to /facepalm, but the person that owns them obviously thinks they are cool.
Take a car. Modify it (could be done by the manufacturer), and make it look "different".
It's like taking a slapper off a council estate and putting loads of makeup on it. It's not actually improved the thing. It just looks different, but you still know what it is underneath the tasteless add ons.
So the RS. Some of it makes the car a better thing. Not the bright green paint though. That's just ... special.
It's like taking a slapper off a council estate and putting loads of makeup on it. It's not actually improved the thing. It just looks different, but you still know what it is underneath the tasteless add ons.
So the RS. Some of it makes the car a better thing. Not the bright green paint though. That's just ... special.
Munter said:
Take a car. Modify it (could be done by the manufacturer), and make it look "different".
It's like taking a slapper off a council estate and putting loads of makeup on it. It's not actually improved the thing. It just looks different, but you still know what it is underneath the tasteless add ons.
So the RS. Some of it makes the car a better thing. Not the bright green paint though. That's just ... special.
....but not chavvy.It's like taking a slapper off a council estate and putting loads of makeup on it. It's not actually improved the thing. It just looks different, but you still know what it is underneath the tasteless add ons.
So the RS. Some of it makes the car a better thing. Not the bright green paint though. That's just ... special.
Police definition...please correct me if I'm wrong.
Council
House
And
Violent
So any car that fits that sort person
Edit: google say's i'm right https://www.google.co.uk/#q=police+definition+of+c...
noun
a member of a British subculture characterized by low- or middle-class youths with characteristics such as wearing athletic clothing, Burberry brand clothing, and gold chains, listening to rap music, driving low-end but "souped up" automobiles, and engaging in drunken and other crass behavior. Also called "townies" and "yobs".
Council
House
And
Violent
So any car that fits that sort person
Edit: google say's i'm right https://www.google.co.uk/#q=police+definition+of+c...
noun
a member of a British subculture characterized by low- or middle-class youths with characteristics such as wearing athletic clothing, Burberry brand clothing, and gold chains, listening to rap music, driving low-end but "souped up" automobiles, and engaging in drunken and other crass behavior. Also called "townies" and "yobs".
Munter said:
Take a car. Modify it (could be done by the manufacturer), and make it look "different".
It's like taking a slapper off a council estate and putting loads of makeup on it. It's not actually improved the thing. It just looks different, but you still know what it is underneath the tasteless add ons.
So the RS. Some of it makes the car a better thing. Not the bright green paint though. That's just ... special.
But that definition the ferrari FXX is chavvy? It's like taking a slapper off a council estate and putting loads of makeup on it. It's not actually improved the thing. It just looks different, but you still know what it is underneath the tasteless add ons.
So the RS. Some of it makes the car a better thing. Not the bright green paint though. That's just ... special.
aka_kerrly said:
On PH i take Chavvy to be used in almost any circumstance where a poster doesn't like something/someone but cannot offer a decent explanation.
The number of cars that are deemed chav and yet using my preferred definition (scum) of a chav 99.99% would never be able to get anywhere close to owning one so I don't know why someone who can would be worried about being associated with them.
Then there are those who think a chav is someone wealthy with different tastes to them, anyone who isn't a higher rate tax payer , anyone who lives in an estate , modifies their car, wears a hoodie, owns a pitbull dog etc etc
Great reply, I would have to agree; due to the people not having the ability to articulate what they think or if it is not to their own taste, it will be referred to as chavvy by the PH users. The number of cars that are deemed chav and yet using my preferred definition (scum) of a chav 99.99% would never be able to get anywhere close to owning one so I don't know why someone who can would be worried about being associated with them.
Then there are those who think a chav is someone wealthy with different tastes to them, anyone who isn't a higher rate tax payer , anyone who lives in an estate , modifies their car, wears a hoodie, owns a pitbull dog etc etc
Although some cars could be considered genuinely chavvy, like a max power Saxo, ect.
Jim909 said:
Quite interesting as it means different things to different people.
There is some kind of Focus (ST)? that lives near me, it is a lime green colour and in my opinion that is just about as chavvy as it gets, also a S3 in a beyond terrible orange colour, both these cars make me want to /facepalm, but the person that owns them obviously thinks they are cool.
I work in the oil industry and in my office white cars are reffered to as "oil chav white" - most of the cars are no less than a year or two old and cost a lot of money but are still considered chavvy (usually have black wheels also)= Range rover sport/Porsche boxster/4 series BMW etc etc
How interesting that colour is a signal to you. White has been a popular colour in the last few years for all types of cars, silver was the colour of choice for what feels like the previous 10 years so what you appear to be saying is anyone who deviates from the common choice or anyone who has a preference for colour that isn't the same as yours is a chav?There is some kind of Focus (ST)? that lives near me, it is a lime green colour and in my opinion that is just about as chavvy as it gets, also a S3 in a beyond terrible orange colour, both these cars make me want to /facepalm, but the person that owns them obviously thinks they are cool.
I work in the oil industry and in my office white cars are reffered to as "oil chav white" - most of the cars are no less than a year or two old and cost a lot of money but are still considered chavvy (usually have black wheels also)= Range rover sport/Porsche boxster/4 series BMW etc etc
Your second point about the oil industry suggests you are a confusing things further by judging people able to afford new cars as chavs. I hadn't realised that being successful meant you were a chav, that is the complete opposite to every definition I know of.
All very very odd to me.
aka_kerrly said:
How interesting that colour is a signal to you. White has been a popular colour in the last few years for all types of cars, silver was the colour of choice for what feels like the previous 10 years so what you appear to be saying is anyone who deviates from the common choice or anyone who has a preference for colour that isn't the same as yours is a chav?
Your second point about the oil industry suggests you are a confusing things further by judging people able to afford new cars as chavs. I hadn't realised that being successful meant you were a chav, that is the complete opposite to every definition I know of.
All very very odd to me.
I see you are another on here who can appreciate my confusion in the way word chavvy is used to describe cars.Your second point about the oil industry suggests you are a confusing things further by judging people able to afford new cars as chavs. I hadn't realised that being successful meant you were a chav, that is the complete opposite to every definition I know of.
All very very odd to me.
I'm pretty sure white was popularised by the wealthy in the hot countries; obviously white being a sensible choice of colour in hot climates. However, I fail to see how having a white car is chavvy.
Edited by elegance on Wednesday 5th March 16:03
Munter said:
Are the differences between an Enzo and an FFX that are of no performance value?
Cosmetic= "chavvy"
Add performance= "a good thing"
I quote, you said "Take a car. Modify it (could be done by the manufacturer), and make it look "different"." If modify in your post is just meant "make it look different" (cosmetic), why did say "and make it look different" at the end? Insinuating that modifying is not cosmetic. Ferrari do offer just cosmetic adjustments to most of their cars, are the cars in Maranello chavs, as well as their customers? Cosmetic= "chavvy"
Add performance= "a good thing"
Also, what of the aerodynamic cosmetic enhance the performance of the car?
Edited by elegance on Wednesday 5th March 16:31
Edited by elegance on Wednesday 5th March 16:33
elegance said:
Munter said:
Are the differences between an Enzo and an FFX that are of no performance value?
Cosmetic= "chavvy"
Add performance= "a good thing"
I quote, you said "Take a car. Modify it (could be done by the manufacturer), and make it look "different"." If modify in your post is just meant make it look different (cosmetic), why did say "and make it look different" at the end? Ferrari do offer just cosmetic adjustments to most of their cars, are the cars in Maranello chavs, as well as their customers? Cosmetic= "chavvy"
Add performance= "a good thing"
Also, what of the aerodynamic cosmetic enhance the performance of the car?
This makes no sense.
elegance said:
I quote, you said "Take a car. Modify it (could be done by the manufacturer), and make it look "different"." If modify in your post is just meant make it look different (cosmetic), why did say "and make it look different" at the end?
Though it is possible to answer it in a similar nonsensical way: Why when I say they modify it to make it look different, did I say they modify it to make it look different? Well let me tell you. It's because they modify it to make it look different.
Modifying something to make it look different is a cosmetic change and is of no performance value. Which would be why it's cosmetic. If it's a modified to improve performance, it has performance value, which is why it's not cosmetic.
Is it there to "make it look different", or is it there "to add performance". The former is a chavvy thing to do. E.g. 19" wheels on shopping trolleys with drum brakes on the rear. Or is it there to add performance? E.g. The air scoop on a Ferrari 550s bonnet
Now if you take the same shopping trolley, put 300bhp in it, and change the wheels to something to provide grip. That's not chavvy.
Munter said:
Though it is possible to answer it in a similar nonsensical way:
Why when I say they modify it to make it look different, did I say they modify it to make it look different? Well let me tell you. It's because they modify it to make it look different.
Modifying something to make it look different is a cosmetic change and is of no performance value. Which would be why it's cosmetic. If it's a modified to improve performance, it has performance value, which is why it's not cosmetic.
Is it there to "make it look different", or is it there "to add performance". The former is a chavvy thing to do. E.g. 19" wheels on shopping trolleys with drum brakes on the rear. Or is it there to add performance? E.g. The air scoop on a Ferrari 550s bonnet
Now if you take the same shopping trolley, put 300bhp in it, and change the wheels to something to provide grip. That's not chavvy.
I'v just been to the dentist and I'm still feeling the effects of the injections they gave me + autocorrect errors.Why when I say they modify it to make it look different, did I say they modify it to make it look different? Well let me tell you. It's because they modify it to make it look different.
Modifying something to make it look different is a cosmetic change and is of no performance value. Which would be why it's cosmetic. If it's a modified to improve performance, it has performance value, which is why it's not cosmetic.
Is it there to "make it look different", or is it there "to add performance". The former is a chavvy thing to do. E.g. 19" wheels on shopping trolleys with drum brakes on the rear. Or is it there to add performance? E.g. The air scoop on a Ferrari 550s bonnet
Now if you take the same shopping trolley, put 300bhp in it, and change the wheels to something to provide grip. That's not chavvy.
I will repeat, you said "Take a car. Modify it (could be done by the manufacturer), and make it look "different". Thus we can conclude that you mean modifying (performance related I assume) your car is different to making it look different; hence why you said modify AND make it look different; making a clear distinction between the two. By your definition "modify and making it look different" would make the FXX chavvy, however it appears in this post that you are doing some back pedalling.
Ok, so if the aerodynamics have an impact on the performance, it's not chavvy? Thanks, that makes more sense but I would disagree; improving the aesthetics of something (whether it's to the taste of another person or not) is not chavvy? Whether that may be a car, my house or even myself, ect.
Edited by elegance on Wednesday 5th March 17:30
Edited by elegance on Wednesday 5th March 17:50
elegance said:
improving the aesthetics of something (whether it's to the taste of another person or not) is not chavvy? Whether that may be a car, my house or even myself, ect.
I've yet to see that managed. I've seen things modified. But aesthetically improved...I don't recall it. Take the RS. Does painting it bright green make it look better than a Zetec model? Well no. It makes it stand out, and it's a statement of the cars performance certainly. But if you were trying to make it a thing that's aesthetically pleasing, it's not the way to go.Gassing Station | Bodywork & Detailing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff