GTechniq vs Ceramic Pro
Discussion
As the Ceramic Pro 9H is an Approved Detailer only product we have not been able to test it unfortunately. The Gtechniq CSLight is a consumer coating which is quite freely available through online wholesalers and performs well, depending upon the quality of the preparation work.
Both companies have been around for a long time, so both have proven track record with their products - although Ceramic Pro have generally always had a policy of supplying through Approved Detailers only rather than direct to consumer.
I guess it boils down to whether you are planning to do the work yourself, or employ someone else... any other information I can provide would only be based on the GTech product as I don't have direct experience of Ceramic Pro.
Rich
www.UKDetailingAcademy.com
Both companies have been around for a long time, so both have proven track record with their products - although Ceramic Pro have generally always had a policy of supplying through Approved Detailers only rather than direct to consumer.
I guess it boils down to whether you are planning to do the work yourself, or employ someone else... any other information I can provide would only be based on the GTech product as I don't have direct experience of Ceramic Pro.
Rich
www.UKDetailingAcademy.com
Edited by UK Detailing Academy on Wednesday 16th October 09:50
Rich...............interesting words......................... thank you
normally between consumer grade and pro grade there is no contest however...............................
Ceramic Pro has bad press about how its all marketing and no substance behind their products........................no pun intended lol.................interesting to see you say they have track record.......................positive
ref: final comment would you recommend GTechniq CSL + EVO4.....................?
cheers Rich............................
normally between consumer grade and pro grade there is no contest however...............................
Ceramic Pro has bad press about how its all marketing and no substance behind their products........................no pun intended lol.................interesting to see you say they have track record.......................positive
ref: final comment would you recommend GTechniq CSL + EVO4.....................?
cheers Rich............................
Yep - it's a good consumer combination.
Let us know how you get on!
Rich
www.UKDetailingAcademy.com
Let us know how you get on!
Rich
www.UKDetailingAcademy.com
Edited by UK Detailing Academy on Wednesday 16th October 09:50
I was an approved applicator of Ceramic Pro but left the network after a lot of problems with the product and distributor.
I'd never personally had any major problem with the coatings, but many others had them fail, swirl up very easily and water spotting is very common (I did have this with a few cars).
When you look at the network now, all of the good detailers are gone and its flooded with mobile guys. The coatings have to be applied at a certain temperature and left to cure for hours before getting wet - which doesn't happen outside.
The CP 9H is only a true 9H hardness if you put 3+ layers on, and a coating can only be as hard as the substrate its applied to.
CSL is a claimed 7H hardness, but you probably won't see much difference in the real world.
I'd never personally had any major problem with the coatings, but many others had them fail, swirl up very easily and water spotting is very common (I did have this with a few cars).
When you look at the network now, all of the good detailers are gone and its flooded with mobile guys. The coatings have to be applied at a certain temperature and left to cure for hours before getting wet - which doesn't happen outside.
The CP 9H is only a true 9H hardness if you put 3+ layers on, and a coating can only be as hard as the substrate its applied to.
CSL is a claimed 7H hardness, but you probably won't see much difference in the real world.
UK Detailing Academy said:
I guess it boils down to whether you are planning to do the work yourself, or employ someone else... any other information I can provide would only be based on the GTech product as I don't have direct experience of Ceramic Pro.
Rich
www.UKDetailingAcademy.com
Rich, can you point me towards a company which can apply Gtechnic products in the Milton Keynes area?Rich
www.UKDetailingAcademy.com
Edited by UK Detailing Academy on Wednesday 16th October 09:50
Many thanks
counterofbeans said:
Rich, can you point me towards a company which can apply Gtechnic products in the Milton Keynes area?
Many thanks
Wotcha!Many thanks
To be honest, from Milton Keynes I would be tempted to go to GTechniq HQ as they're only just up the road in Northampton.
Rich
www.UKDetailingAcademy.com
scratcher_ said:
I was an approved applicator of Ceramic Pro but left the network after a lot of problems with the product and distributor.
I'd never personally had any major problem with the coatings, but many others had them fail, swirl up very easily and water spotting is very common (I did have this with a few cars).
When you look at the network now, all of the good detailers are gone and its flooded with mobile guys. The coatings have to be applied at a certain temperature and left to cure for hours before getting wet - which doesn't happen outside.
The CP 9H is only a true 9H hardness if you put 3+ layers on, and a coating can only be as hard as the substrate its applied to.
CSL is a claimed 7H hardness, but you probably won't see much difference in the real world.
thanks for sharing your thoughts...............................very interesting to hear their network sees leavers........................ and nobody is doing a 3 layer jobbie are they..................? you just never see that written or offered hmmm......................I'd never personally had any major problem with the coatings, but many others had them fail, swirl up very easily and water spotting is very common (I did have this with a few cars).
When you look at the network now, all of the good detailers are gone and its flooded with mobile guys. The coatings have to be applied at a certain temperature and left to cure for hours before getting wet - which doesn't happen outside.
The CP 9H is only a true 9H hardness if you put 3+ layers on, and a coating can only be as hard as the substrate its applied to.
CSL is a claimed 7H hardness, but you probably won't see much difference in the real world.
out of interest would you say go for one or two layers of the 7H of the CSL or one or two layers of the 9H........................? also which ceramic products have you moved to fella......................? and why
I'm not an industry expert or fully paid up detailing geek, but..
The big (consumer) names are GTechniq, CarPro and Gyeon.
I went with GTechniq because C5 (for wheels) is relatively affordable and because it's a home grown product (well the brand is anyway, IDK where the actual liquid comes from).
CarPro and Gyeon are Korean. CarPro CQUK 3 gets great reviews.
The Gyeon range seems much more complicated. Gyeon CanCoat seems popular with amateurs because it's relatively forgiving and because it's not that durable, so if you cock it up it's not forever!
The thing that bothers me about coatings is all of the maintenance that is recommended to maintain the coatings. The toppers can be expensive and having to regularly re-apply seems to part defeat the point of choosing a coating in the first place. That said, I think coating my wheels was a good move. Also some cheap spray sealants are apparently not bad for topping ceramics.
The big (consumer) names are GTechniq, CarPro and Gyeon.
I went with GTechniq because C5 (for wheels) is relatively affordable and because it's a home grown product (well the brand is anyway, IDK where the actual liquid comes from).
CarPro and Gyeon are Korean. CarPro CQUK 3 gets great reviews.
The Gyeon range seems much more complicated. Gyeon CanCoat seems popular with amateurs because it's relatively forgiving and because it's not that durable, so if you cock it up it's not forever!
The thing that bothers me about coatings is all of the maintenance that is recommended to maintain the coatings. The toppers can be expensive and having to regularly re-apply seems to part defeat the point of choosing a coating in the first place. That said, I think coating my wheels was a good move. Also some cheap spray sealants are apparently not bad for topping ceramics.
avaF1 said:
thanks for sharing your thoughts...............................very interesting to hear their network sees leavers........................ and nobody is doing a 3 layer jobbie are they..................? you just never see that written or offered hmmm......................
out of interest would you say go for one or two layers of the 7H of the CSL or one or two layers of the 9H........................? also which ceramic products have you moved to fella......................? and why
I honestly think 1 layer of CSL topped with EXO is the better combo there.out of interest would you say go for one or two layers of the 7H of the CSL or one or two layers of the 9H........................? also which ceramic products have you moved to fella......................? and why
I've moved on to SystemX ceramic coatings. They're huge in the U.S.A. and Australia and are building traction here. They coat all of the Boeing aircraft with it
I've been using them for over a year now and they're impressive. They give greater gloss, water and dirt repellency, better swirl resistance.
I'm also in Milton Keynes
gweaver said:
I'm not an industry expert or fully paid up detailing geek, but..
The big (consumer) names are GTechniq, CarPro and Gyeon.
I went with GTechniq because C5 (for wheels) is relatively affordable and because it's a home grown product (well the brand is anyway, IDK where the actual liquid comes from).
CarPro and Gyeon are Korean. CarPro CQUK 3 gets great reviews.
The Gyeon range seems much more complicated. Gyeon CanCoat seems popular with amateurs because it's relatively forgiving and because it's not that durable, so if you cock it up it's not forever!
The thing that bothers me about coatings is all of the maintenance that is recommended to maintain the coatings. The toppers can be expensive and having to regularly re-apply seems to part defeat the point of choosing a coating in the first place. That said, I think coating my wheels was a good move. Also some cheap spray sealants are apparently not bad for topping ceramics.
What is the maintenance / what are the toppers which you refer to?The big (consumer) names are GTechniq, CarPro and Gyeon.
I went with GTechniq because C5 (for wheels) is relatively affordable and because it's a home grown product (well the brand is anyway, IDK where the actual liquid comes from).
CarPro and Gyeon are Korean. CarPro CQUK 3 gets great reviews.
The Gyeon range seems much more complicated. Gyeon CanCoat seems popular with amateurs because it's relatively forgiving and because it's not that durable, so if you cock it up it's not forever!
The thing that bothers me about coatings is all of the maintenance that is recommended to maintain the coatings. The toppers can be expensive and having to regularly re-apply seems to part defeat the point of choosing a coating in the first place. That said, I think coating my wheels was a good move. Also some cheap spray sealants are apparently not bad for topping ceramics.
Does that comment apply to GTechniq or to the other products you mention?
Thanks...
counterofbeans said:
What is the maintenance / what are the toppers which you refer to?
Does that comment apply to GTechniq or to the other products you mention?
Thanks...
Suggest you watch this video https://youtu.be/12t0ouFsJyoDoes that comment apply to GTechniq or to the other products you mention?
Thanks...
It probably explains better than I could.
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