What do I need to budget for vinyl and PPF?
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Purchasing a used 3 year old car that has okay paintwork but not great. Also, it's not in my preferred choice of colour. Thinking of getting a vinyl wrap to get it to look the colour I want, and then have a PPF on top to lock that colour in with good protection. I'm in London, UK. What kind of budget do I need to keep in mind to get this done by a decent garage?
Ok so depends on the car. And if you want the door shuts doing If it's a dark colour already probably get away without doing them. If it's say bright red. You will want the door shuts doing.
You can put PPF over vinyl, but I wouldn't bother. Vinyl has alot of the same properties. It will self heal micro scratches. And resist Impacts. It's not as effective as PPF. But it's good enough to not need to pay out twice.
Too quantify it for you. My van was re wrapped at 20k miles and it was absolutely mint underneath the wrap it had from new Zero paint chips.
You can put PPF over vinyl, but I wouldn't bother. Vinyl has alot of the same properties. It will self heal micro scratches. And resist Impacts. It's not as effective as PPF. But it's good enough to not need to pay out twice.
Too quantify it for you. My van was re wrapped at 20k miles and it was absolutely mint underneath the wrap it had from new Zero paint chips.
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Spleen said:
x5tuu said:
Going to depend on the size of the car and the quality/finish of the vinyl, plus the skill of the shop doing the wrap.
At the very least £2-3k for a semi decent job.
Perhaps a daft question but why is PPF so expensive?At the very least £2-3k for a semi decent job.
DarrenFromLeeds said:
Don’t forget to budget for prep. Swirl removal from a good polishing etc. depends how much polishing but if it’s not too bad condition then a 2-stage might do it. Costs vary but can be up to £800 in some cases.
My thinking was that if I was going to wrap the car first and then PPF then there wouldn't be any need to remove all the swirl marks or do anything specifically to the original paintwork.SteBrown91 said:
I don’t think you can PPF vinyl tbh. You can do the other way round but not PPF in top of vinyl. It makes little sense as by the time you have pie for PPF it will cover a replacement wrap in a few years.
I saw a few websites that seem to indicate you can do either way around depending on what you want. This is one such website I was looking at: https://www.onerpro.com/single-post/2019/10/25/ppf...My reasoning (it could be flawed though) for having vinyl under the wrap is that I can effectively leave the original paintwork as it is (it's not bad but not great) and the wrap would give it a completely new look as if it was freshly painted. The original paint wouldn't need to be restored because it is going to be hidden under the wrap anyway. Of course, any big imperfections like stone chips, that would show up through the wrap would still need to be resolved. And then the PPF over the top will provide the protection to lock in the look of the wrap.
I was thinking a matte silver colour for the vinyl as this looks great and it's also not a normal colour for the car so it would give it a unique look.
This is just some random car image I found on Google but this shows the kind of colour I'm interested in:
Edited by trueblue4455 on Tuesday 29th March 01:29
trueblue4455 said:
SteBrown91 said:
I don’t think you can PPF vinyl tbh. You can do the other way round but not PPF in top of vinyl. It makes little sense as by the time you have pie for PPF it will cover a replacement wrap in a few years.
I saw a few websites that seem to indicate you can do either way around depending on what you want. This is one such website I was looking at: https://www.onerpro.com/single-post/2019/10/25/ppf...My reasoning (it could be flawed though) for having vinyl under the wrap is that I can effectively leave the original paintwork as it is (it's not bad but not great) and the wrap would give it a completely new look as if it was freshly painted. The original paint wouldn't need to be restored because it is going to be hidden under the wrap anyway. Of course, any big imperfections like stone chips, that would show up through the wrap would still need to be resolved. And then the PPF over the top will provide the protection to lock in the look of the wrap.
I was thinking a matte silver colour for the vinyl as this looks great and it's also not a normal colour for the car so it would give it a unique look.
This is just some random car image I found on Google but this shows the kind of colour I'm interested in:
Edited by trueblue4455 on Tuesday 29th March 01:29
Do you keep your car in a garage? Matt finishes look really good, however they are alot harder to keep clean much like Matt paint they can be 'glossed out if you use the wrong cleaners or scrub a mark out to hard. We generally steer customers away from matte/satin finishes for daily drivers.
You would also need to have a gloss wrap and then use Matt ppf as the Matt finish of the vinyl would probably show through the clear PPF. Although I've never actually tried it myself.
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