Self service jetwash advice
Self service jetwash advice
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Sisu9

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300 posts

122 months

Sunday 29th May 2022
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I live in Finland and you are not allowed to wash your car in the street. I've been using a SS jetwash (2 mins) to rinse off the worst of the dirt and then I take 20l of water and clean with the 2 bucket method before sluicing off with the remaining water, then towel dry. My problem is this jetwash has now closed and the new ones operate by a timed queuing system i.e. once your time is up anyone can get a code to enter your bay. The bays are also staffed so they come and chuck you out if you go over your time.

This means I can't use my own bucket and water to clean the car. Could I use a prewash from a garden sprayer? Snowfoam and wash mitt? Even get something to cover the dreaded gritty brush in the bay?

I have a pristine 997.2 which I don't wish to add swirl marks and a Defender which is more about removing salt. Any help much appreciated.

Edited by Sisu9 on Sunday 29th May 21:11

RichB

54,947 posts

304 months

Sunday 29th May 2022
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Would a cordless (battery) jet washer work or do you not have access to water at the jet wash bays?

p.s. Why can't you pull forward out of the bay and finish off in the parking area?

interstellar

4,613 posts

166 months

Sunday 29th May 2022
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RichB said:
finish off in the parking area?
Wouldn’t he get arrested for that?

Sisu9

Original Poster:

300 posts

122 months

Monday 30th May 2022
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No, there is no access to water at the jet wash bays other than when the actual bay is activated. You are also not allowed to wash the car anywhere other than the actual bay. Something about chemicals from washing going into the main water network. I assume the bays have some sort of collection tank for waste water from washing.

take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey

7,021 posts

75 months

Monday 30th May 2022
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Surely there are valeting companies in Finland? Can't you just pay to have the 911 valeted?

Belle427

11,075 posts

253 months

Monday 30th May 2022
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Pump sprayers are probably your friend here, something like bilt hamber touchless first and then a chosen shampoo mix.
How much time are we talking?

Sisu9

Original Poster:

300 posts

122 months

Monday 30th May 2022
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You get 5 mins between getting the code and the jetwash activating, so I'll have to work pretty fast. Something like Bilthamber Touch Less or CarValet Pro equivalent sounds like a possibility with a decent sprayer.

paintman

7,842 posts

210 months

Monday 30th May 2022
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I presume you've checked with the bay operators that you would be allowed to use the various snow foams/washes & that you aren't going to be asked to leave before you can rinse it off?

Sisu9

Original Poster:

300 posts

122 months

Monday 30th May 2022
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Yes, it's the first question I asked. They have no problem with people using their own kit, they just don't want customers to cause delays in the time-based system-

randlemarcus

13,642 posts

251 months

Monday 30th May 2022
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So buy multiple timecodes, surely?

Sisu9

Original Poster:

300 posts

122 months

Monday 30th May 2022
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Multiple timecodes would be possible but it would also mean I would have to switch bays mid-procedure if there was a queue of cars. it's actually what I did last time but obviously, this was far from optimal.

InitialDave

14,125 posts

139 months

Monday 30th May 2022
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When you say you're not allowed to wash your car on the street, what are the specific rules on that?

And is it just a residential area thing, or can you do it/get away with it somewhere quieter?

randlemarcus

13,642 posts

251 months

Monday 30th May 2022
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InitialDave said:
When you say you're not allowed to wash your car on the street, what are the specific rules on that?

And is it just a residential area thing, or can you do it/get away with it somewhere quieter?
You can wash your car on your own property, but you have to have a filtration syste to prevent the hazardous run off getting into the public Rey water system. Jolly lucky that oil\diesel\road grime never leaks, or is washed off by puddles eh?

InitialDave

14,125 posts

139 months

Monday 30th May 2022
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Hmm, so provided you do the wet washing at the jet wash station, you could do all the dry detailing work at home? Maybe use a waterless wash of some type if necessary?

The other thing I've seen in one of Ammo NYC's videos when he was in California, with similarly strict rules, they set up a sort of sandbag barrier hose affair to prevent runoff and recapture the water, is there something similar that would allow you to operate within the rules?

Lastly, could you just drive somewhere away from prying eyes and do a wash there?

Sisu9

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300 posts

122 months

Tuesday 31st May 2022
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Yes, I could do the wash at the jetwash and then make sure it's properly clean with Waterless Wash.

The advantage of the jetwash is of course the fast-flowing water, rather than washing it elsewhere. I think I'm going to try covering the car in snowfoam for the first 5 mins, then jetwash on the soap setting and rinse with straight water and see how I get on.

vikingaero

12,011 posts

189 months

Tuesday 31st May 2022
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Worx Hydroshot, 20l water container, 2 buckets and a secluded forest track....

Chris32345

2,139 posts

82 months

Wednesday 1st June 2022
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InitialDave said:
When you say you're not allowed to wash your car on the street, what are the specific rules on that?

And is it just a residential area thing, or can you do it/get away with it somewhere quieter?
Probably down to most surface water drains going into the local streams

anonymous-user

74 months

Wednesday 1st June 2022
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Yes, the pre-wash stage before you use the jet wash is probably the best point to aid the cleaning process.

When does the timer start? From the moment you spray the nozzle? If so, then focus on pre-wash.

You can use a dedicated pump sprayer to snow foam. Strong mix to dissolve as much grime and break down dirt.

Then jet wash it off.
Next you will want to use something like a detailing spray or waterless wash (clay bar optional depending on level of cleaning). This is safe to use carefully with microfibre towels. Make sure you have enough towels. Fold over whenever a corner becomes dirty.

Things like waxing you can do on the road away from the wash place.

Optimum no rinse is a good option. Dilute it. If you would rather not keep buying dedicated waterless wash bottles.

Protection is best. A decent sacrificial layer. Strong wax. Or ceramic. This might help you go longer between cleans. Or make life easier when cleaning next time around.

Are there any wash bays further from that place who are a bit more relaxed? Or does the place you go to have quiet times where they are less likely to throw someone out?

I like the idea about the battery powered pressure washer. You could go somewhere and do that. Like rent a drive or garage where you can wash.

Hope that helps.

anonymous-user

74 months

Wednesday 1st June 2022
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interstellar said:
RichB said:
finish off in the parking area?
Wouldn’t he get arrested for that?
laugh

Sisu9

Original Poster:

300 posts

122 months

Wednesday 1st June 2022
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Good call on the QD with or without clay as a drying aid / added lubricity with microfibre cloths. I use a Klin mitt and towel when not using QD.
I usually use Sonax QD between waxing with Black Widow as a longer protection layer. Think I'll increase the application frequency of hard wax to aid the washing process long term. I'm not keen on ceramic coating, came on my Cayenne when I bought it, a nightmare for any potential paint jobs and the depth of shine is not comparable to wax.

The nearest more relaxed jetwash is a good 20kms away.