Beoshield, ACF90 or Lanoguard?
Discussion
I'm wanting a lighter duty underbody corrosion protection for suspension components and subframes.
I'm familiar with Dinitrol and Bilt Hamber products but they tend to be heavier long term wax/bitumen products - I'm looking for something that will keep the winter salt ravages away that I can happily re apply every summer.
I've not used Lanoguard as it's heavily promoted on social media / Facebook so although it could be ideal I've marked it down for that reason but would be interested in other people's opinions.
I know ACF50 is popular in the motorcycle world for winter commuters but again I don't have any experience.
and finally Beoshield was developed for protecting aircraft onboard carriers at sea so should be ideal for what I'm wanting - but again I have no experience of.
Any other products I've missed or does anyone experience with the above in a similar application?
I'm familiar with Dinitrol and Bilt Hamber products but they tend to be heavier long term wax/bitumen products - I'm looking for something that will keep the winter salt ravages away that I can happily re apply every summer.
I've not used Lanoguard as it's heavily promoted on social media / Facebook so although it could be ideal I've marked it down for that reason but would be interested in other people's opinions.
I know ACF50 is popular in the motorcycle world for winter commuters but again I don't have any experience.
and finally Beoshield was developed for protecting aircraft onboard carriers at sea so should be ideal for what I'm wanting - but again I have no experience of.
Any other products I've missed or does anyone experience with the above in a similar application?
I've been using ACF50 for years which really is very good for getting into the nooks and crannies, as you already know its an annual task because it does wash off but it takes so little time its worth doing, cheapest i've found it is around £70 for a 4 litre bottle from one of the online motorcycle sites, 4 litres will last years.
This year following suggestions on my Landcruiser forum also tried chain lube in aerosol form after the ACF50 spray, was able to get 12 x 450ml chain spray cans for £33 on ebay, they came with 6" flexible pipes as many aerosols do, in practice this cheap lube proved very good, a powerful fine spray mist which after a short time congeals so is ideal also for cavities.
I also hand coat the main ladder chassis in marine grease, the ACF50 and grease combo i've been using for some years now, at 20 years my LC chassis suspension underbody and rear live axle are rust free unlike most others of similar vintage, sadly buying the vehicle circa 11 years old was too late to save the alloy rear aircon pipes so had to have the system repiped about 3 years ago at £tupid cost.
Yes its not exactly pleasant to work on underneath but much rather greasy muck than rust, unsure if the airon lads thought that.
Most important before doing any of this is to wash the whole undersides down to remove all salt and crud after the winter, last thing you want is to seal salt residue in, this year has been difficult to clean effectively due to the lack of spring rains, thankfully after the late May rains that was done.
My LC has rear air suspension, the level sensors are quite exposed and expensive, the ACF spray has kept them lubed and working well when so many others with the same air suspension have had to remove the lot and retro fit steel springs etc.
This year following suggestions on my Landcruiser forum also tried chain lube in aerosol form after the ACF50 spray, was able to get 12 x 450ml chain spray cans for £33 on ebay, they came with 6" flexible pipes as many aerosols do, in practice this cheap lube proved very good, a powerful fine spray mist which after a short time congeals so is ideal also for cavities.
I also hand coat the main ladder chassis in marine grease, the ACF50 and grease combo i've been using for some years now, at 20 years my LC chassis suspension underbody and rear live axle are rust free unlike most others of similar vintage, sadly buying the vehicle circa 11 years old was too late to save the alloy rear aircon pipes so had to have the system repiped about 3 years ago at £tupid cost.
Yes its not exactly pleasant to work on underneath but much rather greasy muck than rust, unsure if the airon lads thought that.
Most important before doing any of this is to wash the whole undersides down to remove all salt and crud after the winter, last thing you want is to seal salt residue in, this year has been difficult to clean effectively due to the lack of spring rains, thankfully after the late May rains that was done.
My LC has rear air suspension, the level sensors are quite exposed and expensive, the ACF spray has kept them lubed and working well when so many others with the same air suspension have had to remove the lot and retro fit steel springs etc.
Edited by Smint on Thursday 19th June 11:03
I had this service done a car last year
Car goes in, wheels off, arch lines and any underbody trays off
Underside is when washed and steam cleaned followed by a coated of lanoguard
Can't comment on the longevity but was happy with the service for the price I paid vs crawling around on the floor
Car goes in, wheels off, arch lines and any underbody trays off
Underside is when washed and steam cleaned followed by a coated of lanoguard
Can't comment on the longevity but was happy with the service for the price I paid vs crawling around on the floor
Smint said:
I've been using ACF50 for years which really is very good for getting into the nooks and crannies, as you already know its an annual task because it does wash off but it takes so little time its worth doing, cheapest i've found it is around £70 for a 4 litre bottle from one of the online motorcycle sites, 4 litres will last years.
This year following suggestions on my Landcruiser forum also tried chain lube in aerosol form after the ACF50 spray, was able to get 12 x 450ml chain spray cans for £33 on ebay, they came with 6" flexible pipes as many aerosols do, in practice this cheap lube proved very good, a powerful fine spray mist which after a short time congeals so is ideal also for cavities.
I also hand coat the main ladder chassis in marine grease, the ACF50 and grease combo i've been using for some years now, at 20 years my LC chassis suspension underbody and rear live axle are rust free unlike most others of similar vintage, sadly buying the vehicle circa 11 years old was too late to save the alloy rear aircon pipes so had to have the system repiped about 3 years ago at £tupid cost.
Yes its not exactly pleasant to work on underneath but much rather greasy muck than rust, unsure if the airon lads thought that.
Most important before doing any of this is to wash the whole undersides down to remove all salt and crud after the winter, last thing you want is to seal salt residue in, this year has been difficult to clean effectively due to the lack of spring rains, thankfully after the late May rains that was done.
My LC has rear air suspension, the level sensors are quite exposed and expensive, the ACF spray has kept them lubed and working well when so many others with the same air suspension have had to remove the lot and retro fit steel springs etc.
Thanks for the reply. My usual protection regime is rust removal followed by Fertan to kill any pitted rust then Jotun Jotamastic with Jotun Pilot ACR topcoat. This works well but for suspension components I've used Dinitrol waxes but it's messy when tinkering hence something lighter This year following suggestions on my Landcruiser forum also tried chain lube in aerosol form after the ACF50 spray, was able to get 12 x 450ml chain spray cans for £33 on ebay, they came with 6" flexible pipes as many aerosols do, in practice this cheap lube proved very good, a powerful fine spray mist which after a short time congeals so is ideal also for cavities.
I also hand coat the main ladder chassis in marine grease, the ACF50 and grease combo i've been using for some years now, at 20 years my LC chassis suspension underbody and rear live axle are rust free unlike most others of similar vintage, sadly buying the vehicle circa 11 years old was too late to save the alloy rear aircon pipes so had to have the system repiped about 3 years ago at £tupid cost.
Yes its not exactly pleasant to work on underneath but much rather greasy muck than rust, unsure if the airon lads thought that.
Most important before doing any of this is to wash the whole undersides down to remove all salt and crud after the winter, last thing you want is to seal salt residue in, this year has been difficult to clean effectively due to the lack of spring rains, thankfully after the late May rains that was done.
My LC has rear air suspension, the level sensors are quite exposed and expensive, the ACF spray has kept them lubed and working well when so many others with the same air suspension have had to remove the lot and retro fit steel springs etc.
Edited by Smint on Thursday 19th June 11:03
TechnoKnows said:
I had this service done a car last year
Car goes in, wheels off, arch lines and any underbody trays off
Underside is when washed and steam cleaned followed by a coated of lanoguard
Can't comment on the longevity but was happy with the service for the price I paid vs crawling around on the floor
I contacted Lanoguard to see if they had any salt spray testing results to back up their claims - they didn't. Also the fact they are heavily promoting on social media instantly puts me off.Car goes in, wheels off, arch lines and any underbody trays off
Underside is when washed and steam cleaned followed by a coated of lanoguard
Can't comment on the longevity but was happy with the service for the price I paid vs crawling around on the floor
Otherwise it could be ideal as I'm not wanting a permanent coating.
Can I ask why you want to apply every year?
Bilt Hamber will last 3 years maybe more so means less work.
I don't think Acf will last at all, lanogurd maybe applied regularly but I have not seen many favourable reviews on it.
Bilt hamber atom mac may be worth considering but I have not tested it longer term.
Bilt Hamber will last 3 years maybe more so means less work.
I don't think Acf will last at all, lanogurd maybe applied regularly but I have not seen many favourable reviews on it.
Bilt hamber atom mac may be worth considering but I have not tested it longer term.
Edited by Belle427 on Thursday 19th June 14:35
Belle427 said:
Can I ask why you want to apply every year?
Bilt Hamber will last 3 years maybe more so means less work.
I don't think Acf will last at all, lanogurd maybe applied regularly but I have not seen many favourable reviews on it.
I don't want a thick heavy wax product - its hassle and messy when doing future suspension/brake type tinkering.Bilt Hamber will last 3 years maybe more so means less work.
I don't think Acf will last at all, lanogurd maybe applied regularly but I have not seen many favourable reviews on it.
I'm rebuilding a car that has Jotun coatings on the majority of the underside components, I'm wanting something lighter and easy to apply for fasteners/brake hose ferrules/bush inserts etc
Edited by RustyNissanPrairie on Thursday 19th June 15:17
RustyNissanPrairie said:
I contacted Lanoguard to see if they had any salt spray testing results to back up their claims - they didn't. Also the fact they are heavily promoting on social media instantly puts me off.
Otherwise it could be ideal as I'm not wanting a permanent coating.
Hubnut likes Alphalan https://www.lubricantsuppliers.com/discover-alphal...Otherwise it could be ideal as I'm not wanting a permanent coating.
Bennetts’ review of rust inhibitors may be helpful:
https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/prod...
ACF-50 worked well on my motorcycles to protect them against winter conditions and salty roads for many years. But I’ve now switched to the less-sticky version of XCP, which I prefer.
https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/prod...
ACF-50 worked well on my motorcycles to protect them against winter conditions and salty roads for many years. But I’ve now switched to the less-sticky version of XCP, which I prefer.
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