Ceramic coatings
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Philipcollins340

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42 posts

77 months

Friday 1st August
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I am sure this has been covered but I see no way to search the forums?

Can someone recommend a good one for my Aston M. Vantage paintwork at a sensible price?

I saw the Autoglym product. Is it any goid?

PhilC

Deviation

74 posts

20 months

Friday 1st August
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What do you want the coating to do?

There are many different ones, each offering different types of protection and varying levels of hydrophobicity.

Are you going to apply it yourself?

normalbloke

8,107 posts

235 months

Friday 1st August
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Zircotec. The rest are pants.

Philipcollins340

Original Poster:

42 posts

77 months

Friday 1st August
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Thanks for the replies. I will apply myself. Main requirements are to give protection to the painy but also to give an improved shine. I am not the best at maintaining my paint so the reports of a longer lasting shine came as a pleasant surprise. Now the challenge is to pick something which works.

Br PhilC

Dog Biscuit

898 posts

13 months

Friday 1st August
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For a home user take a look at the Gyeon range of ceramic coatings


Legacywr

13,619 posts

204 months

Friday 1st August
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I have to ask, are these not just snake oil. Do they really offer more protection than other, well established, polishes?

Genuine question, and not meaning to start an argument smile

I’ve seen a couple of people post on different forums, where they say they’ve paid £100’s for ceramic coating, with a 5 year guarantee… but they have to keep topping it up by reapplying it…

Deviation

74 posts

20 months

Friday 1st August
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Philipcollins340 said:
Thanks for the replies. I will apply myself. Main requirements are to give protection to the painy but also to give an improved shine. I am not the best at maintaining my paint so the reports of a longer lasting shine came as a pleasant surprise. Now the challenge is to pick something which works.

Br PhilC
Most, but not all, ceramic coatings won’t provide additional shine, since they don’t contain enough filler material other than for very small scratches.

I’ve tested this myself on gloss black which I’d intentionally left micro marring on from a microfibre pad. Whereas wax products would fill the haze and make it appear more black, the ceramic coatings didn’t.



The Gtechniq ones are decent, and they have the added benefit of being part of a larger ecosystem. This is important as you’ll be able to use their products knowing they won’t harm the coatings.


I’ve seen brand incompatibility before, where products from a brand impacted the coating of another brand, but not the original brand’s coating.



C1 won’t be very hydrophobic but you could top it with Exo which is extremely easy to apply and extremely hydrophobic.

Deviation

74 posts

20 months

Friday 1st August
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Legacywr said:
I have to ask, are these not just snake oil. Do they really offer more protection than other, well established, polishes?

Genuine question, and not meaning to start an argument smile

I ve seen a couple of people post on different forums, where they say they ve paid £100 s for ceramic coating, with a 5 year guarantee but they have to keep topping it up by reapplying it
Unfortunately, yes. It can be a minefield to navigate ceramic coatings, and how do you properly assess whether they’re effective without structured, process-based repeatable testing.


They won’t provide much hardness protection, but some will protect against bird poo and tree sap pretty well and can make the car easier to clean.

Legacywr

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204 months

Friday 1st August
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Men and polish are the equivalent of women and anti-aging creams and shampoos biggrin

21TonyK

12,454 posts

225 months

Friday 1st August
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AFAIK long before ceramic coatings were a thing (or at least way before I was aware of them) there was (and still is) "Autoglym Extra Gloss Protection".

Same job, different stuff?

DoubleSix

12,291 posts

192 months

Friday 1st August
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CarPro C Quartz

I won’t be bothering with wax again…

Deviation

74 posts

20 months

Friday 1st August
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21TonyK said:
AFAIK long before ceramic coatings were a thing (or at least way before I was aware of them) there was (and still is) "Autoglym Extra Gloss Protection".

Same job, different stuff?
It’s more of a sealant with filling capabilities - it doesn’t really have any protective capabilities like a true ceramic coating.

Deviation

74 posts

20 months

Friday 1st August
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DoubleSix said:
CarPro C Quartz

I won t be bothering with wax again
It’s very good as an entry level product but not at all hydrophobic, and you need to let it cure away from the elements, so may not be ideal if you don’t have a garage

Dave Hedgehog

15,135 posts

220 months

Friday 1st August
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i wish there was a lazy bd (im ill so have very poor stamina) spray i could cover the car in wipe once and forget about it

Sebring440

2,779 posts

112 months

Friday 1st August
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Philipcollins340 said:
I will apply myself. Main requirements are to give protection to the painy but also to give an improved shine.
The shlongo on that painy will be most splendiferated by the glormous thorkus seramickle coatey-sistatoot. If you re plannifying to slorp it your ownself, then as afore-advisedly, you must let it curifloober overknightly, so the carritude has to be snuggered underfung. Tis lardy-work and the painy must be scrumpulistically gleamclean before the slorpage, so fetch forth that clay carriflex and learn its proper how-to. Then follox the instructibles to the lettico. Do all that rigmarole and you ll be basking in deep joy and a beautimous result!

Deep joy and carry on carriflexing!




Edited by Sebring440 on Friday 1st August 22:41

Legacywr

13,619 posts

204 months

Friday 1st August
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Sebring440 said:
Philipcollins340 said:
I will apply myself. Main requirements are to give protection to the painy but also to give an improved shine.
The shlongo on that painy will be most splendiferated by the glormous thorkus seramickle coatey-sistatoot. If you re plannifying to slorp it your ownself, then as afore-advisedly, you must let it curifloober overknightly, so the carritude has to be snuggered underfung. Tis lardy-work and the painy must be scrumpulistically gleamclean before the slorpage, so fetch forth that clay carriflex and learn its proper how-to. Then follox the instructibles to the lettico. Do all that rigmarole and you ll be basking in deep joy and a beautimous result!

Deep joy and carry on carriflexing!


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Deviation

74 posts

20 months

Friday 1st August
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Dave Hedgehog said:
i wish there was a lazy bd (im ill so have very poor stamina) spray i could cover the car in wipe once and forget about it
There are ones you can forget about for a few months biggrin

Dave Hedgehog

15,135 posts

220 months

Friday 1st August
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Deviation said:
Dave Hedgehog said:
i wish there was a lazy bd (im ill so have very poor stamina) spray i could cover the car in wipe once and forget about it
There are ones you can forget about for a few months biggrin
thats all i need

Hackney2

838 posts

109 months

Friday 1st August
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For anyone who is remotely interested in Ceramic coatings, get onto Car craft auto .(YT) Sandro is one of the best, extremely interesting to watch.Based in Melbourne Australia.He knows his stuff on all matters of detailing anything automotive.Highly recommended viewing.I have personally coated a few cars, but it is all about the preparation.

Belle427

10,698 posts

249 months

Saturday 2nd August
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Dave Hedgehog said:
Deviation said:
Dave Hedgehog said:
i wish there was a lazy bd (im ill so have very poor stamina) spray i could cover the car in wipe once and forget about it
There are ones you can forget about for a few months biggrin
thats all i need
If you use something like Bilt Hamber touch on and spray it on with a foam style lance its even easier.
Hardest thing you have to do is towel dry it.