Paint correction advice
Discussion
Whilst in winter months i decided to do a bit of paint correction and Ceramic coat my car myself.
Porsche 997.1
Slate gray
Tools n Products
Rupes polisher
5set of new pads - each one kept for particular grade of polish
Farecla G3 Scratch remover
Meguiars Ultimate Compound
PoorBoys Black Stuff
Method.
So far i have been mostly using the Ultimate compound to rid the car of long snake type swirls and light marks on the panels that seem to be from just lack of previous correction and some induced by a contaminated,sloppy work from whoever prepped this car before i bought it, it looks like someone did the whole bonnet with a contaminated pad with the odd grain in the sponge that continued to leave these long wiggly snake scratches from the pad used. Most of them have gone.
Anything that doesn't go i have been spot polishing with the G3 which seems much coarser and leaves almost a hash type finish when using this, which for sure needs a fair bit of compound polish after. When i am happy i finish that panel with Poorboys bllack stuff.
I will then use
Gtechniq panel wipe to prep that panel for Ceramic coat.
And then apply
Gtechniq crystal serum light - Ceramic coat.
How does that all sound, am on the right track?
My only concern and ask is i see tiny 'pits' everywhere across the bonnet for example is that just road rash i have to live its really hard to photograph without taking a reflected selfy or camera selfy.
Also what lamp can i use to see the surface properly. I am in my garage and it's pissing with rain constantly in this s
tty country what indoor lamp should i use? I tried an LED headlamp and certain lamps at angles but not brilliant. Not wanting to spend tons of money but advice appreciated.
Porsche 997.1
Slate gray
Tools n Products
Rupes polisher
5set of new pads - each one kept for particular grade of polish
Farecla G3 Scratch remover
Meguiars Ultimate Compound
PoorBoys Black Stuff
Method.
So far i have been mostly using the Ultimate compound to rid the car of long snake type swirls and light marks on the panels that seem to be from just lack of previous correction and some induced by a contaminated,sloppy work from whoever prepped this car before i bought it, it looks like someone did the whole bonnet with a contaminated pad with the odd grain in the sponge that continued to leave these long wiggly snake scratches from the pad used. Most of them have gone.
Anything that doesn't go i have been spot polishing with the G3 which seems much coarser and leaves almost a hash type finish when using this, which for sure needs a fair bit of compound polish after. When i am happy i finish that panel with Poorboys bllack stuff.
I will then use
Gtechniq panel wipe to prep that panel for Ceramic coat.
And then apply
Gtechniq crystal serum light - Ceramic coat.
How does that all sound, am on the right track?
My only concern and ask is i see tiny 'pits' everywhere across the bonnet for example is that just road rash i have to live its really hard to photograph without taking a reflected selfy or camera selfy.
Also what lamp can i use to see the surface properly. I am in my garage and it's pissing with rain constantly in this s
tty country what indoor lamp should i use? I tried an LED headlamp and certain lamps at angles but not brilliant. Not wanting to spend tons of money but advice appreciated. Good bright garage lighting will help highlight any defects, not sure what you have in there currently. I have 3 bright led battens in mine and they are very good to be fair.
The Farecla is quite a coarse cutting compound so I would take care with that, spot correcting as you say is not really a good idea as you can inflict more sctratches with rubbing in one place, assuming your doing this by hand.
Meguiars ultimate compound is pretty good but there are better products out there from the likes of Menzerna who are excellent.
Have a look here.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
The Farecla is quite a coarse cutting compound so I would take care with that, spot correcting as you say is not really a good idea as you can inflict more sctratches with rubbing in one place, assuming your doing this by hand.
Meguiars ultimate compound is pretty good but there are better products out there from the likes of Menzerna who are excellent.
Have a look here.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Belle427 said:
Good bright garage lighting will help highlight any defects, not sure what you have in there currently. I have 3 bright led battens in mine and they are very good to be fair.
The Farecla is quite a coarse cutting compound so I would take care with that, spot correcting as you say is not really a good idea as you can inflict more sctratches with rubbing in one place, assuming your doing this by hand.
Meguiars ultimate compound is pretty good but there are better products out there from the likes of Menzerna who are excellent.
Have a look here.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Appreciate your advice thankyou will have a read doing all 'rubbing' with Rupes polisher so flipping to my G3 disc for course spots then back to Meguiars disc. The Farecla is quite a coarse cutting compound so I would take care with that, spot correcting as you say is not really a good idea as you can inflict more sctratches with rubbing in one place, assuming your doing this by hand.
Meguiars ultimate compound is pretty good but there are better products out there from the likes of Menzerna who are excellent.
Have a look here.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Hi,
I'm not too sure of your use of Poorboys Black Hole, its fantastic stuff, but its designed as a light filler glaze on dark vehicles, when you panel wipe prior to ceramic coat you are wiping it back off. It designed to be an end product, prior to ceramic coating you need a bare paint surface hence the use of the IPA, you don't want any products on top..
In relation to your rash on the bonnet you need to use a clay bar, that will help remove all the contaminents.
I'm not too sure of your use of Poorboys Black Hole, its fantastic stuff, but its designed as a light filler glaze on dark vehicles, when you panel wipe prior to ceramic coat you are wiping it back off. It designed to be an end product, prior to ceramic coating you need a bare paint surface hence the use of the IPA, you don't want any products on top..
In relation to your rash on the bonnet you need to use a clay bar, that will help remove all the contaminents.
Can i also ask what you are using for detailing lamps?
My garage isn't that bright to i get stronger ceiling lamps or use a proper detailing lamp
anyone used something like this
https://www.slimsdetailing.co.uk/collections/car-d...
My garage isn't that bright to i get stronger ceiling lamps or use a proper detailing lamp
anyone used something like this
https://www.slimsdetailing.co.uk/collections/car-d...
Hi,
I use the Milwaukee light, but personally I think the detailing world is a lot about selling you things you probably don't need. If I was doing it in my garage I'd simply buy a LED strip batten light from a DIY shop, screw it to a long piece of wood and wire up a plug and long extension lead and move that around the car as I go. You can buy them on tripods from places like Screwfix etc, thats really all you need and a lot cheaper than anything on Slims site.
I have a couple of these around my unit and they work great if I've got a job offsite as well:
https://www.toolden.co.uk/new-sealey/sealey-led602...
I use the Milwaukee light, but personally I think the detailing world is a lot about selling you things you probably don't need. If I was doing it in my garage I'd simply buy a LED strip batten light from a DIY shop, screw it to a long piece of wood and wire up a plug and long extension lead and move that around the car as I go. You can buy them on tripods from places like Screwfix etc, thats really all you need and a lot cheaper than anything on Slims site.
I have a couple of these around my unit and they work great if I've got a job offsite as well:
https://www.toolden.co.uk/new-sealey/sealey-led602...
DaveF-SkinnysAutos said:
Hi,
I use the Milwaukee light, but personally I think the detailing world is a lot about selling you things you probably don't need. If I was doing it in my garage I'd simply buy a LED strip batten light from a DIY shop, screw it to a long piece of wood and wire up a plug and long extension lead and move that around the car as I go. You can buy them on tripods from places like Screwfix etc, thats really all you need and a lot cheaper than anything on Slims site.
I have a couple of these around my unit and they work great if I've got a job offsite as well:
https://www.toolden.co.uk/new-sealey/sealey-led602...
Thanks Dave much appreciated!! I use the Milwaukee light, but personally I think the detailing world is a lot about selling you things you probably don't need. If I was doing it in my garage I'd simply buy a LED strip batten light from a DIY shop, screw it to a long piece of wood and wire up a plug and long extension lead and move that around the car as I go. You can buy them on tripods from places like Screwfix etc, thats really all you need and a lot cheaper than anything on Slims site.
I have a couple of these around my unit and they work great if I've got a job offsite as well:
https://www.toolden.co.uk/new-sealey/sealey-led602...
My only question would be what is the temperature and humidity like in your garage?
Some ceramic coatings take longer to flash off if it's colder and more humid, some are designed specifically to work well in those types of environment. It can mean that you have to leave it on longer until you get that rainbow effect or you don't leave it long enough meaning it won't bond properly. You can end up with high spots which are hard to buff away.
I recently applied CQuartz 3.0 UK, because I knew my garage would be cold after I'd applied it and have very high humidity. I don't know what the GTechniq stuff is like but just thought I'd mention it.
Some ceramic coatings take longer to flash off if it's colder and more humid, some are designed specifically to work well in those types of environment. It can mean that you have to leave it on longer until you get that rainbow effect or you don't leave it long enough meaning it won't bond properly. You can end up with high spots which are hard to buff away.
I recently applied CQuartz 3.0 UK, because I knew my garage would be cold after I'd applied it and have very high humidity. I don't know what the GTechniq stuff is like but just thought I'd mention it.
Led battens will make a big difference, Im not a huge fan of Lap stuff from screwfix but I put some in my dads garage and they have been fine.
I used the twin 5 foot versions but put the brightest you can in, there are usually lots of threads on garage lighting in the home and garden section.
I used the twin 5 foot versions but put the brightest you can in, there are usually lots of threads on garage lighting in the home and garden section.
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