Gyeon ceramic coating

[Simpo Two]

I've just swapped my DB9 for a Vanquish, and can see in the history folder that it had 'enhancement detail and Gyeon ceramic coating' last May.

The car looks immaculate and I don't want to mess it up. I'm not into detailing as such and normally just use Turtlewax Zipwax with perhaps a helping of G3 before a show. Can I carry on using those or will I mess it up?

[Chris_i8]

The zipwax will leave waxes/polymers behind after rinsing which will clog up the coating and thus you'll lose the water behaviour and surface slickness.

A 'free rinsing' shampoo and quick detailing spray should be all that you need.

Gyeon Bathe or Gtechniq Gwash for shampoo.

Gyeon or Gtechniq quick detailer for you guessed it quick detailing, also useful as a drying aid.

A mega absorbent drying towel compliments washing a coated car really well, I recommend the following having tried hundreds over the last 20yrs.
https://paragonmicrofibre.com/products/twisted-loo...

Happy washing.

Chris

[Deviation]

I wouldn t use a wash and wax product.

I d stick to the same manufacturer of the coating, so Gyeon Bathe (not +).


Don t use G3 if it s the Farecla compound, it ll abrade the coating.

[Simpo Two]

Chris_i8 said:

The zipwax will leave waxes/polymers behind after rinsing which will clog up the coating and thus you'll lose the water behaviour and surface slickness.

A 'free rinsing' shampoo and quick detailing spray should be all that you need.

Gyeon Bathe or Gtechniq Gwash for shampoo.

Gyeon or Gtechniq quick detailer for you guessed it quick detailing, also useful as a drying aid.

A mega absorbent drying towel compliments washing a coated car really well, I recommend the following having tried hundreds over the last 20yrs.
https://paragonmicrofibre.com/products/twisted-loo...

Thanks, that sounds sensible.

Deviation said:

I wouldn t use a wash and wax product.

I d stick to the same manufacturer of the coating, so Gyeon Bathe (not +).

Don t use G3 if it s the Farecla compound, it ll abrade the coating.

OK, that's two votes for Gyeon Bathe (this is all Greek to me!) so it looks like that'll be on my shopping list.

The G3 is this one: https://www.amazon.co.uk/G3-Pro-Rapid-Detailer-2-0... - will that be OK to use after the shampoo?

NB: How much of the ceramic coating from last May is likely to be left? I think it doesn't last forever.

[Chris_i8]

Simpo Two said:

NB: How much of the ceramic coating from last May is likely to be left? I think it doesn't last forever.

Depends on which coating was applied, if it was MOHS then it should absolutely still be present and correct.

[Simpo Two]

Chris_i8 said:

Depends on which coating was applied, if it was MOHS then it should absolutely still be present and correct.

All it says is 'Gyeon ceramic coating' but he paid £960 + VAT for the work so maybe it's the good version?

[Belle427]

Stick to Gyeon for your products, they are one of the top brands.

[butchstewie]

Simpo Two said:

All it says is 'Gyeon ceramic coating' but he paid £960 + VAT for the work so maybe it's the good version?

Should be.

Short of contacting whoever did it I doubt you'll find out exactly what it was but as above Gyeon are one the most renowned brands so if it's been done right I would just keep on top of it and use their recommended products.

Slapping turtle wax on top of something like that is a waste of time.

[Simpo Two]

Thanks very much everyone. I'll get some of the 'Bathe' shampoo.

Will the spray I linked to above be useful as an 'rapid detailer' for special occasions, or should I get a Gyeon version, or is such an extra unnecessary now? New territory!

[Ed Boon II]

Not a detailer, just a keen amateur/weekend warrior, but I swear by Gyeon WetCoat, fantastic product to spray on spray off.

https://gyeon.co/product/wetcoat/

[butchstewie]

Simpo Two said:

Thanks very much everyone. I'll get some of the 'Bathe' shampoo.

Will the spray I linked to above be useful as an 'rapid detailer' for special occasions, or should I get a Gyeon version, or is such an extra unnecessary now? New territory!

Presume you have all the other stuff like good quality cloths and mitts and guards?

Easy to go down a rabbit hole but if you've spent that much on a car and if the paint is immaculate a few quid on good wash gear makes all the difference v a bucket and sponge.

No offence intended if you already know all this

[Simpo Two]

butchstewie said:

Presume you have all the other stuff like good quality cloths and mitts and guards?

Pretty good, I learned a lot last summer when I set about buying the clobber to machine polish the old DB9...! But the jungle of detailing products is confusing because they all say they're the fantastic ultimate etc.

[Belle427]

Simpo Two said:

Thanks very much everyone. I'll get some of the 'Bathe' shampoo.

Will the spray I linked to above be useful as an 'rapid detailer' for special occasions, or should I get a Gyeon version, or is such an extra unnecessary now? New territory!

If your not a fussy cleaner don`t bother, is it a garage queen or daily driver?

[butchstewie]

Simpo Two said:

Pretty good, I learned a lot last summer when I set about buying the clobber to machine polish the old DB9...! But the jungle of detailing products is confusing because they all say they're the fantastic ultimate etc.

Yeah it can be a rabbit hole.

Didn't mean to sound patronising but if you were still in the sponge and old bath towel trap it really is worth spending £50 on some microfibre.

You could just stick with Gyeon for an easy life as I agree it's very easy to start overthinking which of 50 brands of microfibre will be best

Bare minimum though a couple of buckets and a couple of grit guards and a microfibres mitt and drying towel will put you in a good place.

[Simpo Two]

Belle427 said:

If your not a fussy cleaner don`t bother, is it a garage queen or daily driver?

It is, currently, my only car so likely to do about 4,000 miles a year, perhaps half of that up and down the A14. It only needs to look top dollar for 5-6 shows each year.

butchstewie said:

Didn't mean to sound patronising but if you were still in the sponge and old bath towel trap it really is worth spending £50 on some microfibre... Bare minimum though a couple of buckets and a couple of grit guards and a microfibres mitt and drying towel will put you in a good place.

I've moved from sponge to mitts and have loads of microfibre cloths and a good drying towel (even a hot air blower though it's a bit of a faff to use). I'm a bit light on the bucket front though, with only one and using the gravity grit separation technique... if you can post a link to a better answer it would be handy

Edited by Simpo Two on Saturday 7th March 14:23

[butchstewie]

Simpo Two said:

I've moved from sponge to mitts and have loads of microfibre cloths and a good drying towel (even a hot air blower though it's a bit of a faff to use). I'm a bit light on the bucket front though, with only one and using the gravity grit separation technique... if you can post a link to a better answer it would be handy

I'd get an extra bucket and a couple of these.

https://www.halfords.com/motoring/car-cleaning/spo...

You can spend more on different brands but these are cheap and work fine.

The difference between what you see in the "dirty" bucket and what you see in the "clean" bucket can be a bit of an eye opener.

[Simpo Two]

Thanks, I found a grit guard on Amazon much the same.

It seems one bucket is for washing and the other is for rinsing... but I just blast off the suds with a hose so do I need a rinse bucket? If not I could just use the current bucket and pop the grit guard in.

[butchstewie]

You rinse the mitt in one bucket so the dirt goes in that then fill the mitt from the second bucket with clean water.

So in theory the second bucket should be clean with zero grit/dirt in it and that's what goes on the paint.

At some point it's diminishing returns in terms of gain but if you (well someone else in this case ) spent £1000 having a car coated then ten quid for a second bucket and grit guard is small change.

[Belle427]

Controversial but I have only ever used 1 bucket, my cars never get that dirty so I don`t really see a lot of debris in the bucket.
If they do ever get bad I snow foam and rinse first, this removes most of it.
The quick detailer is useful to use for a show etc.

[butchstewie]

I'm not religious about it I just figure it's a tenner and there's no downside other than funny looks from the neighbours