Two pac temp and humidity
Two pac temp and humidity
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Julian64

Original Poster:

14,317 posts

270 months

Thursday 18th May 2006
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Anyone know what the minimum temp and especially humidity you need in this country before you can have a reasonable go at 2 pac in the open?

ChipsAway Guy

46 posts

231 months

Thursday 15th June 2006
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If it's isocyanate cured, (and the vast majority are) then you're tempting fate by spraying it anywhere outside a controlled environment (ie properly extracted booth). The responsible agencies would come down like a ton of bricks if they caught wind of it...

CG

Julian64

Original Poster:

14,317 posts

270 months

Friday 16th June 2006
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erum, thanks for the reply but I think its safer to spray the stuff outside than in one of your 'controlled' environments.

A few calculations with parts per million and available space for redistribution would tell me that.

Out of interest what does your spray booth do with the cyanide created? Does it go through a special system of complex catalysts or do you simply vent it to the outside air

ChipsAway Guy

46 posts

231 months

Friday 16th June 2006
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An extracted booth and proper equipment (ie air-fed mask) is going to be safer than spraying in the open air, for the sprayer and anyone downwind. No parts per million calculation is going to alter that fact. And that's to say nothing of the legal risks the sprayer would be chancing. :-)

Have a look at www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/indg388.pdf for a the HSE's basic flyer info on iso's, which covers some of the health and protection aspects, and also the relevant law.

To answer your question, I don't spray iso-cured products, because I spray in the open air - our paint system is iso-free, and certified as 95% below the VOC occupational exposure limits when used as instructed. I know that at least some systems use 'active carbon' filtering, including some mobile/portable units.

CG

PS To try and be half-way helpful as regards the original question - it's going to vary from product to product - check the data sheets. Too much heat may initiate cross-linking between coats, which could result in crazing, which is one reason why painting a panel in direct sunlight can be a bad idea. High humidity can cause a moisture bloom in some systems, but usually it can just be baked out. Be guided by the info on the particular product you're considering...
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Edited by ChipsAway Guy on Friday 16th June 11:51

hal 1

409 posts

265 months

Saturday 17th June 2006
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Just out of interest what kind of paint do you use ?
reason for asking is I believe cellulose is soon to be made unavailable and I'm wondering what will the diy man be able to use ?

ChipsAway Guy

46 posts

231 months

Sunday 18th June 2006
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Currently a modified Dupont Centari system. But because it's solvent-based, we're phasing it out in favour of a waterbased system over the next 12 months.

The law is changing, and sale or import of all solvent-borne paints will be illegal soon, although using up old stock will be ok for the actual painters for a while yet - but the bottom line is everyone will be using waterbased before too much longer...

CG