How best to wash cars correctly
How best to wash cars correctly
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Richybaby

Original Poster:

172 posts

242 months

Friday 5th January 2007
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Hi ALL,

Don't think me dull for asking what might seem like a simple question but, I have read so many different articles on this, also, I seem in-capable of accumilating swirl marks of some shape or form when washing my cars, in particular my TVR which is naturaly fibreglass, and it's black. What's the general consensus of opinion here, any help is much appreciated.

Rich.

Wacky Racer

39,888 posts

263 months

Friday 5th January 2007
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Don't wash it, problem solved.......


Seriously, I don't think there is much you can do, other than choose a cool day, use copious amounts of water to loosen any dirt BEFOREHAND and a very mild car shampoo made especially for the job......

Richybaby

Original Poster:

172 posts

242 months

Friday 5th January 2007
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I know, I am quite in touch with that emotion, the don't wash it one that is, but it's black! shows up everything, and I do like it when it's shiny.

Cheers.

Anatol

1,392 posts

250 months

Friday 5th January 2007
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There's some info over at cleanyourcar.co.uk and loads of very in-depth discussions, and photo how-to's from pro detailers over on the detailing world forums.

You'll find there's endless debate over what products are 'best' - which can be a bit silly - each owner's budget and schedule for car cleaning and cosmetic care are going to be different. I couldn't care less if Zymer UberWax (not a real product!) is made from wax harvested only from angel wing-feathers, if it's £1000 for a small tub, it's not relevant to me... (etc!)

Tol

muzzer79

3,814 posts

237 months

Friday 5th January 2007
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If it's black and it hasn't seen a sponge for a while, pay out some cash and get it detailed by a pro. While he's there, ask him what he recommends for cleaning.

It's easier to keep it clean than make it clean...

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

266 months

Friday 5th January 2007
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Right, simple answer; there is no simple answer.

I am heavily into my car detailing and have a black car. It's such an enemy!!! I have made a (very very long) post about this before I'll try and hunt it out and repost for you, but to summarise - you will NOT get a shine/scratch free wet look yourself; it will need to be professinoally detailed.

You can, however, get a very good look if you use the rights -importantly- in the right way.

www.detailingworld.co.uk is a great place to have a look to start to udnerstand the intricacies of cleaning your car

I'll hunt out that post for you now, too

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

266 months

Friday 5th January 2007
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This thread's got some good questions and answers in it.....

www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t=256646

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

266 months

trickywoo

13,110 posts

246 months

Friday 5th January 2007
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These are the basics

Get car properly wet before starting

Two buckets (one to rinse and one to soap-up before putting on car)

Lambswool wash-mit (for the top 3/4)

Sponge x2 (one for lower quarter one for wheels)

Silicone blade for drying (microfibre cloth fo the bits a blade will not do)

Obviously use a good quality shampoo

Renew sponges on a regular basis

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

266 months

Friday 5th January 2007
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agree with everything except the silicon blade there, Tricky my man. Use a microfibre drying cloth and although it will take slightly longer, you'll not get 1ft wide lines of scratches over yoru car (especially if it's fairly soft paintwork).

trickywoo

13,110 posts

246 months

Friday 5th January 2007
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Must admit when I first started with the blade I did worry about it scratching but I've had no problems with it on a freshly washed and rinsed area (always run my thumb over the edge between swipes).

May be my imagination but I have found that a wax finish lasts longer with a blade than when dryed with a cloth.

Even if you don't want to use it on the paint its great for glass.

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

266 months

Friday 5th January 2007
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Yup on the glass they're great (though admittedly my car doesn't have much glass hehe)...it's probably one of those great discussion topics that will run for ever - personal preference is where it will lie, I guess!

hutchingsp

59,370 posts

226 months

Saturday 6th January 2007
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Have a look for a Grit Guard too. They're plastic grilles that go in the bottom of the bucket and the idea is that the grit/dirt settles at the bottom of the bucket and the grilles on the Grit Guard stops the dirt being stirred up and picked up by the wash mitt and getting rubbed into the paint.

On the face of it it's an expensive piece of fairly ordinary looking plastic but they do work going from the amount of crap in the bottom of the bucket when I've finished washing my car.

As Muzzer says it's easier (and cheaper) to keep it clean and swirl free than it is to make it clean and swirl free

Calorus

4,081 posts

240 months

Monday 8th January 2007
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Richybaby said:
I know, I am quite in touch with that emotion, the don't wash it one that is, but it's black! shows up everything, and I do like it when it's shiny.

Cheers.


Yeah mine's Black to - and it shows up all the dirt - but on the bright side the dirt's from summer so it hasn't got any salt in it, and it stop the dirt from winter getting in. Just jet the wheelarches.

I can think of about 79,034 things I'd prefer to do than wash my car. And of those 45,327 involve being in it.

Richybaby

Original Poster:

172 posts

242 months

Tuesday 16th January 2007
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Thanks for all the feedback guys, just all confirms what I thought I already knew, in essence it seems like a best efforts situation, do your best but expect some swirls.
Some good things here though that I hadn't heard or though of, once again thanks all for pitching in.

Rich.

morebeanz

3,283 posts

252 months

Wednesday 17th January 2007
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A lot of the detailing addicts do a pre-wash on the car as a replacement for "just" wetting the vehicle. Essentially you can get a foamer to spray wash foam over the car, leave it to work and then rinse off.

For regular cleaning it is possible to clean the car this way without touching it if the soiling isn't too heavy.

hutchingsp

59,370 posts

226 months

Wednesday 17th January 2007
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Yeah I have one of those (Gilmour Gun). Only had it a week but it does make a big difference IMHO, much less dirt left on the car to wash off with a mitt.

Depends how you look at it, some people will think £50 on something to spray foam on the car is a lot of money, I tend to see it as a small part of how much my car cost me and I want to keep it looking like new so it's money well spent IMHO - there's the self justification for those that think anything beyond a bucket and an old bath towel is sad

Nico G

80 posts

224 months

Wednesday 24th January 2007
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Check out www.pro-detailing.co.uk then click 'how to wax your car'

Hope that helps...

Nick.