What works better polish or glaze
Discussion
Have got some Poor Boys white diamond glaze and had a go with it on the 13 year old daily driver as a test.
Washed and clayed a panel then used the glaze by hand. Then applied Finish Kare 2685 wax two coats then finished off with FK 425 detailing spray. After this process stood back and was rather disappointed, its only a bit better than the other panels which have just been washed with Megs NXT wash. Was expecting a big difference.
Wondering if a polish before the glaze might work better to get rid of the swirls etc. AG SRP might work well, can it be used with the glaze?
Washed and clayed a panel then used the glaze by hand. Then applied Finish Kare 2685 wax two coats then finished off with FK 425 detailing spray. After this process stood back and was rather disappointed, its only a bit better than the other panels which have just been washed with Megs NXT wash. Was expecting a big difference.
Wondering if a polish before the glaze might work better to get rid of the swirls etc. AG SRP might work well, can it be used with the glaze?
Preparation of the paintwork is key and yields the greatest rewards - no amount of glazing/waxing/sealing/ballcock juice smeared over what amounts to a sow's ear, will result in a mirror finish.
Paintwork correction is 95% of the job, all products layered on top is the last 5% - or the icing on the cake, so to speak.
Paintwork correction is 95% of the job, all products layered on top is the last 5% - or the icing on the cake, so to speak.
A proper paint correction by a professional with a machine is what i need but havn't the funds at the moment. The car that needs the work is an old TVR which is in its original paint. I want to get the best finish but accept that deep marks, swirls etc will remain as will touched up stone chips.
But still want the best depth and shine from the majority of the finish.
So guess i need a good polish to to tidy up the old paintwork, which can be applied by hand?
But still want the best depth and shine from the majority of the finish.
So guess i need a good polish to to tidy up the old paintwork, which can be applied by hand?
Edited by Wiz on Monday 25th May 19:54
Quite simply wash and then clay the car, Bilt Hamber autoclay will do the best job possible.
Then to help mask the swirl marks use either Bilt Hamber Autobalm or Autoglym's Super Resin Polish.
A Glaze offers no protection whatsoever and is usually used in shows to add depth and wetness to a cars finish.
A decent wax to top off the work done before will make your paintwork look great, so any thoughts about your choice of wax?
Then to help mask the swirl marks use either Bilt Hamber Autobalm or Autoglym's Super Resin Polish.
A Glaze offers no protection whatsoever and is usually used in shows to add depth and wetness to a cars finish.
A decent wax to top off the work done before will make your paintwork look great, so any thoughts about your choice of wax?
Have tried the BH Autobalm and didn't get on with it, found it hard work getting the application just right. Have used Autoglym SRP in the past but didn't like the dust and marks it left on trim. As its easily available will have another go with the SRP. Still like the idea of the glaze and it is very easy to apply.
Bilt Hamber clay first
SRP to fill the swirls, then glaze to add depth, then the finishing wax.
Using Finish Kare 2685 wax paste. I want a good easily applied finish but not bothered too much about durability as the car is for summer use.
Bilt Hamber clay first
SRP to fill the swirls, then glaze to add depth, then the finishing wax.
Using Finish Kare 2685 wax paste. I want a good easily applied finish but not bothered too much about durability as the car is for summer use.
Wash and clay as mentioned above. The use menzera intensive polish. Apply by hand via a german aplicator pad. Both are available from www.polishedbliss.co.uk. That'll give you plenty of correction. Then go over with the glaze and top off with your wax of choice.
eta - the menzerna is oil based so doesn't dust as much as the srp. it still dusts but a hell of a lot less. :thumb:
eta - the menzerna is oil based so doesn't dust as much as the srp. it still dusts but a hell of a lot less. :thumb:
Edited by mneame on Monday 25th May 23:32
mneame said:
Wash and clay as mentioned above. The use menzera intensive polish. Apply by hand via a german aplicator pad. Both are available from www.polishedbliss.co.uk. That'll give you plenty of correction. Then go over with the glaze and top off with your wax of choice.
eta - the menzerna is oil based so doesn't dust as much as the srp. it still dusts but a hell of a lot less. :thumb:
Been looking at the menzerna stuff on the net as you mentioned it. There is a new one listed as a one step finish. Seems to be designed for machine application and looks quite abrasive. Assume that if its applied by hand it should be less aggressive and safe for a numpty like me.eta - the menzerna is oil based so doesn't dust as much as the srp. it still dusts but a hell of a lot less. :thumb:
Edited by mneame on Monday 25th May 23:32
The link didn't work but have found the site you recommend and now know the product you are describing but there are two versions
Edited by Wiz on Tuesday 26th May 18:16
All menz polishes are fine to work by hand and as you say won't be quite as agressive as if worked by machine. But you still need to work with caution.
The 203s does sound good, I've not tried it yet myself. I still have plenty of rd3.02 and 85re left, but I will order it in the triple pack the next time I need to order some.
Rich at PB is very helpful. Give him a call before you order and he'll be more than happy to chat it over with you.
The 203s does sound good, I've not tried it yet myself. I still have plenty of rd3.02 and 85re left, but I will order it in the triple pack the next time I need to order some.
Rich at PB is very helpful. Give him a call before you order and he'll be more than happy to chat it over with you.
Got some of the Intensive polish and it was fairly easy to work, didn't get a lot of the swirls/scratches out but was applied by hand and first time user so maybe i was a bit gentle.
Any how several hours later and moving the car further and further back the drive to keep out of the sun light i was quite impressed with the final result still quite a few marks and swirls but less than before.
Washed with Bilt Hamber auto wash
Bilt Hamber clayed
Menzerna intensive polish by hand
Poor boys white diamond glaze
Two coats of Finish Kare 2685
Finish Kare 425
Then off to the pub for a well earned
Will try to get some pics up as will be out for a drive tomorrow.
Any how several hours later and moving the car further and further back the drive to keep out of the sun light i was quite impressed with the final result still quite a few marks and swirls but less than before.
Washed with Bilt Hamber auto wash
Bilt Hamber clayed
Menzerna intensive polish by hand
Poor boys white diamond glaze
Two coats of Finish Kare 2685
Finish Kare 425
Then off to the pub for a well earned
Will try to get some pics up as will be out for a drive tomorrow.
Gassing Station | Bodywork & Detailing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff