titanium bodywork,is it possible?
titanium bodywork,is it possible?
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unclemark123

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882 posts

228 months

Wednesday 5th August 2009
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as the title, is it possible to have body panels made in titanium ?

will it press form under heat, the same way as steel ?

obviously it would be expensive, but would make an ultra strong/corrosion proof and light body.

mark. smile

PJ S

10,842 posts

247 months

Wednesday 5th August 2009
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Cheaper to make the part from Carbon Fibre instead - just as strong and corrosion proof, and no galvanic concerns too!

red_slr

19,525 posts

209 months

Wednesday 5th August 2009
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Anything is possible.

dirty boy

14,809 posts

229 months

Wednesday 5th August 2009
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red_slr said:
Anything is possible.
money talks


domster

8,431 posts

290 months

Thursday 6th August 2009
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I am not sure it is flexible, so can't be bent from a sheet into curves and stuff. So you'd need to mould it, which adds to complication, weight and expense. Not entirely sure, but that's what I remember from buildings like the Guggenheim in Bilbao as it has titanium tiles covering it, rather than curved sheets, for this reason. Maybe you can tile a car biggrin

Top Banana

447 posts

232 months

Friday 7th August 2009
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Its def. possible - have a google about 'superplastic forming'

the aerospace guys use it to form complex curved panels for jet
engines, so body panels shouldn't present to many issues, but I think
your wallet mike take a battering :-)

cheers - Tb

domster

8,431 posts

290 months

Friday 7th August 2009
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Thanks TB, interesting to know. But yes, seems pricier than getting the bodyshop to hit it with hammers smile

johnnywgk

2,579 posts

202 months

Saturday 8th August 2009
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Unclemark, i hope that TVR bodywork aint going rusty

tegwin

1,672 posts

226 months

Thursday 13th August 2009
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Top Banana said:
Its def. possible - have a google about 'superplastic forming'

the aerospace guys use it to form complex curved panels for jet
engines, so body panels shouldn't present to many issues, but I think
your wallet mike take a battering :-)

cheers - Tb
Correct me if I am wrong, but all of the tit turbine housings I have seen are either cast or extrusion formed..... Not stamped or shaped as a car body panel would be...

Top Banana

447 posts

232 months

Sunday 16th August 2009
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Hi Tegwin

I have worked with aerospace companies to develop the special heated
presses used with superplastic forming.

it effectively removes the 'memory' effect in titanium, where a pressing normally
wants to revert to its flat shape. The parts are used for outer turbine cowlings and other complex curved pieces. Some of the largest I have seen formed are at least as big as a car bonnet.

Have a google for superplastic titanum, i'm sure theres loads of info about where
the parts are used

philworrall

45 posts

228 months

Thursday 20th August 2009
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There are lots of sheet components on modern military aircraft especially near the engine exhaust.

These are definitely NOT cast

Scooby72

702 posts

201 months

Monday 31st August 2009
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Definatly possible, but expensive, which is probably why you only really see it in the aerospace sector.

http://www.aeromet.co.uk/forming-division/gallery/


Flibble

6,530 posts

201 months

Tuesday 1st September 2009
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Why not go stainless steel for the 80s Delorean look? wink

Steve748

8,542 posts

204 months

Tuesday 1st September 2009
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Flibble said:
Why not go stainless steel for the 80s Delorean look? wink
Just a bit on the heavy side, that's why the DeLorean was so slow

jagman21

195 posts

244 months

Friday 11th September 2009
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It must be possible they've (merc slr) built cars with magnesium bodies in the 50's, its incredibly dangerous to weld though, very flamble, which is why the stirling moss car was restored and the body completely replaced with aluminium it was just easier to replace the whole thing.

PS sr71 blackbird is sheet titanium so it can be done.

but the main reason was strength at high temperatures, and as cars don't get to temperatures where titaniuim comes into its own and the strength can be equaled with composites, its pretty much pointless.

Zad

12,924 posts

256 months

Sunday 13th September 2009
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Here is a sample price for Titanium :

TI227937 0.5mm x 305mm coil 2m £1111.00

Ouch biggrin