Car detailing - Clay and Meguiars 3 step any good?
Car detailing - Clay and Meguiars 3 step any good?
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mat59

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817 posts

233 months

Sunday 21st February 2010
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Hello all.

Now that the weather is due to improve in the next few months I'm going to get ready to clean my car.

I usually use Meguiars deep crystal 3 step system. Reviews are pretty good so I'll probably just continue with this.

Is it worth claying the car first?

As I don't want to be doing this every weekend come the summer, what is recommended to maintain a decent shine once this work has been done. Can I just apply a wax or do I have to do the whole 3 step system once again?


paddyhasneeds

62,511 posts

230 months

Sunday 21st February 2010
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Claying is usually worthwhile. Even on a seemingly clean or new car it can pull off quite a bit of crap.

belleair302

6,990 posts

227 months

Sunday 21st February 2010
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Pop over to the detailing section on here for better advice. You can do better with a miture of products depending upon your budget and requirements.

PeteG

4,278 posts

231 months

Sunday 21st February 2010
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Wash it, clay it, wash it again, Super Resin Polish, then top with Collinite 476. Then just wash it regularly, and give it another wax every month or so. biggrin

Buzzkill

786 posts

204 months

Sunday 21st February 2010
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If you haven't got an orbital/rotary I'd personally stick to claying then using a polish like AG SRP followed by twin layers (leaving at least 24 hours between application) of something like Collinite 915. Top up with something like Dodo Juice Red Mist Tropical every few weeks after a wash.

The key is all in the preparation and much of the finish the eye see's is actually down to the polishing stage as opposed to the sealant/wax.

Two buckets, a washmit, MF cloths, applicator pads and a good drying towel are all vital.

Edited by Buzzkill on Sunday 21st February 18:53

mat59

Original Poster:

817 posts

233 months

Sunday 21st February 2010
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Thanks for the advice. I take it then that Meguiars is not great? Only asking as I have loads left.

Are the polishes/waxes suggested likely to cost a fortune?

belleair302

6,990 posts

227 months

Sunday 21st February 2010
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Meguiars is a perfectly respectable brand and their products are very good. However there are some more 'industry' brands which will do a better job. Clay wise I would look at Sonus mild (Green) and Meguiars Last Touch lube. For a polish....depending upon your car I would look at Zaino Z-PC Fusion Dual Action Paint Cleaner Swirl Remover costing around 12 quid and to top off I would look closely at Dodo Juice or Finishkare re wax.

If you need any help just ask.

Ciaran

1,462 posts

222 months

Monday 22nd February 2010
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I've used it a few times over the years and think it's quite good. I'm not expert in detailing but it seemed to work really well on my paint work.

Torquey

1,939 posts

248 months

Monday 22nd February 2010
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Definately clay, especially once we get out of the winter.

pmanson

13,388 posts

273 months

Monday 22nd February 2010
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Decent wash, then clay (the bilt hamber stuff is good or sonos green), wash/rinse again.

I have used Megs in the past as well as the Sonus polishes. I picked up a DA Polisher last year and i'm currently using Menzerna polishes.

Topped off with a couple of coats of Megs #16 to give it some protection.

Megs Last Touch is useful for getting rid of dust etc after the polishing and wax stages.

Edited by pmanson on Monday 22 February 09:11

Lucie W

3,473 posts

202 months

Monday 22nd February 2010
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Clay...yes, yes, yes! I was given some Maguirs and did my black Puma with it. The results are superb but it's also addictively satisfying fun.

hondafanatic

4,969 posts

221 months

Monday 22nd February 2010
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That is the exact set up I use. To be honest, unless you've got a particular cleaning fetish, then it should be more than enough.

The real benefit is when you come to wash your car, it makes it a lot easier just to give it a quick wash and it's all shiny again.

As mentioned above, two buckets, wash, clay, wash, dry polish etc.

bga

8,134 posts

271 months

Monday 22nd February 2010
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Clay is good, as is the Megs 1,2,3. Lots of people bang on about different products, by far the biggest factor is the elbow grease that you want to apply to the process.

mat59

Original Poster:

817 posts

233 months

Monday 22nd February 2010
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Thanks for the responses guys.

I think I'll finish off the Meguiars first. I'll clay the car first.

Most people have recommended using clay, a decent polish and seal with a decent wax. This sounds easier than the Meguiars 3 step system I'm currently using.


Rich_W

12,548 posts

232 months

Monday 22nd February 2010
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Just don't drop the clay as you'll need to throw it away!

Meguairs is fine for the less anally obsessive, who just want to go to Halfords buy some stuff and then use it. I don't like AutoGlym Polish at all in comparisson. You end up with loads of "dust" afterwards. SAying that the Autoglym car shampoo stuff is better than the purple meguairs stuff.

PeteG

4,278 posts

231 months

Monday 22nd February 2010
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Meg's stage 3, the wax, doesn't last particularly well. The bonus of the Collinite is it's only about 18 quid for a tin, but one application will last about 6 months.

mat59

Original Poster:

817 posts

233 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2010
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PeteG said:
Meg's stage 3, the wax, doesn't last particularly well. The bonus of the Collinite is it's only about 18 quid for a tin, but one application will last about 6 months.
What's collinite and what does it do? If I can find any wax that lasts that would be a bonus as I won't need to do it as often!

paddyhasneeds

62,511 posts

230 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2010
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mat59 said:
PeteG said:
Meg's stage 3, the wax, doesn't last particularly well. The bonus of the Collinite is it's only about 18 quid for a tin, but one application will last about 6 months.
What's collinite and what does it do? If I can find any wax that lasts that would be a bonus as I won't need to do it as often!
It's wax. Nothing flash, fancy or expensive just very hard-wearing so lasts a long time i.e. you'll never get through a tin of the stuff as long as you own the car unless you spread it like butter or have some serious OCD (I mean that almost literally).

www.collinite.com - 476 is the cheap hard-wearing stuff.

PeteG

4,278 posts

231 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2010
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paddyhasneeds said:
mat59 said:
PeteG said:
Meg's stage 3, the wax, doesn't last particularly well. The bonus of the Collinite is it's only about 18 quid for a tin, but one application will last about 6 months.
What's collinite and what does it do? If I can find any wax that lasts that would be a bonus as I won't need to do it as often!
It's wax. Nothing flash, fancy or expensive just very hard-wearing so lasts a long time i.e. you'll never get through a tin of the stuff as long as you own the car unless you spread it like butter or have some serious OCD (I mean that almost literally).

www.collinite.com - 476 is the cheap hard-wearing stuff.
yes

Comes in a proper old-school tin, thick paste rather than liquid in a bottle. If you go to Elite Car Care, they do a kit including applicators and cloths for about £20. Well worth it.

mat59

Original Poster:

817 posts

233 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2010
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Thanks. I presume you just rub it in and buff it off like a normal wax?

Thinking of replacing the third step (wax) with this now if it lasts longer. To help with step one I've been thinking of replacing the paint cleaner with something that will effectively remove the light swirls. Is scratch X too abrasive?