How much does vehicle detailling cost?
Discussion
hman said:
My new 2nd hand car is metallic black and to be honest its in need of a detail and paint correction as it has very light swirls etc which let it down. Its a Mind Blowingingly Mundane Mondeo, if that helps anyone estimate costs..
It generally depends who you use, the actual condition of the paint, how long it'll take to correct to the level you want / what is possible and the LSP you choose. Expect to pay anywhere from £150 to £1000. There are some detailers out there that will charge you £8000 to do it. Which imo is way over the top even on a Veyron.
For a Mondeo though I'd expect around £300 - £400 for a days exterior correction.
Hi, As above. Between £200-£400 approximately, of course depending on location/amount of work involved.
£8000.00 to Detail a car to a high standard is not bad at all when you think about the time/effort/ cost of products/ insurance etc. My full Detail commissions costs more than this, I know how much goes into each individual car.
Cheers,
Michael.
£8000.00 to Detail a car to a high standard is not bad at all when you think about the time/effort/ cost of products/ insurance etc. My full Detail commissions costs more than this, I know how much goes into each individual car.
Cheers,
Michael.
You could try getting into detailing yourself. With the right shampoo, mitt, drying towels, polish, electric polisher, clay, glaze and wax you will be amazed with a few hours and some time spent watching how it is done your car can look like new. If you don't have the time or the interest somewhere under £400 would get you a full on interior and exterior detail and a machine polish.
Q. Will you be trying to keep it swirl free afterwards and protecting your paintwork?
Q. Will you be trying to keep it swirl free afterwards and protecting your paintwork?
Michael
Can you please enlighten me how a detail can cost £8000 as in my head allowing £500 for materials (which buys a hell of a lot) and allowing £50 per hour gives you 150 hours work.
While I admire the skill detailers have i cant see how you can spend that much time on one car or achieve much more than you would when charging £500.
Can you please enlighten me how a detail can cost £8000 as in my head allowing £500 for materials (which buys a hell of a lot) and allowing £50 per hour gives you 150 hours work.
While I admire the skill detailers have i cant see how you can spend that much time on one car or achieve much more than you would when charging £500.
Laser Sag said:
Michael
Can you please enlighten me how a detail can cost £8000 as in my head allowing £500 for materials (which buys a hell of a lot) and allowing £50 per hour gives you 150 hours work.
While I admire the skill detailers have i cant see how you can spend that much time on one car or achieve much more than you would when charging £500.
Remember while someone is willing to pay that another is willing to charge that.Can you please enlighten me how a detail can cost £8000 as in my head allowing £500 for materials (which buys a hell of a lot) and allowing £50 per hour gives you 150 hours work.
While I admire the skill detailers have i cant see how you can spend that much time on one car or achieve much more than you would when charging £500.
£500 won't get you much for a pro kit. Have a look at the price of a paint thickness gauge (one that can read multiple layers on different subs).
Laser Sag said:
Michael
Can you please enlighten me how a detail can cost £8000 as in my head allowing £500 for materials (which buys a hell of a lot) and allowing £50 per hour gives you 150 hours work.
While I admire the skill detailers have i cant see how you can spend that much time on one car or achieve much more than you would when charging £500.
I know that some of the waxes and polishes can cost thousands for a tub the size of a hair gel pot!Can you please enlighten me how a detail can cost £8000 as in my head allowing £500 for materials (which buys a hell of a lot) and allowing £50 per hour gives you 150 hours work.
While I admire the skill detailers have i cant see how you can spend that much time on one car or achieve much more than you would when charging £500.
I appreciate that kit costs money but you dont charge a customer for a new paint gauge or pot of Zymol wax everytime they are part of your overhead which is spread over each and every project.
Would have to say I have been very pleased with the work that a Herts based detailer has carried out on 2 of my cars and they have been less than the £500 mark each.
Not knocking the people who charge the high figures just struggling to understand how they arrive at those figures.
Would have to say I have been very pleased with the work that a Herts based detailer has carried out on 2 of my cars and they have been less than the £500 mark each.
Not knocking the people who charge the high figures just struggling to understand how they arrive at those figures.
Laser Sag said:
I appreciate that kit costs money but you dont charge a customer for a new paint gauge or pot of Zymol wax everytime they are part of your overhead which is spread over each and every project.
Would have to say I have been very pleased with the work that a Herts based detailer has carried out on 2 of my cars and they have been less than the £500 mark each.
Not knocking the people who charge the high figures just struggling to understand how they arrive at those figures.
I totally agree that some of the prices are excessive but when you look at the normal price for a detailer to come to youWould have to say I have been very pleased with the work that a Herts based detailer has carried out on 2 of my cars and they have been less than the £500 mark each.
Not knocking the people who charge the high figures just struggling to understand how they arrive at those figures.
and do a days correctional detail you are looking around the £350 mark.
For the high end of the price scale your not looking at one or even a few days. Some of them take a couple of weeks even more.
Hi Laser Sag,
I also have a van and carry out mobile Detailing like you have had done on your own cars and charge approximately the same prices.
With regards to the Detail mentioned, I never usually feel the need to justify what I charge and this is no different but its always good to give others an insight into my working day/ week/ month. You answered your own question... well I actually spend in excess of 160 hours on one of these commissions or 1 month. I also do Leather Repair which can be time consuming and its amazing how quickly the time passes.
For instance:
Take all 4 wheels off of your car and then put them back on again.
unbolt all the seats in your car, remove them, fit them back in, bolt them back into place.
Remove all badges, emblems, bump strips from your car, replace them.
remove all headlights, tail lights, indicators from the car, then replace them.
etc etc etc...
How long did that take you? Thats without lifting a finger to clean anything!! Then on top of that, theres colour sanding, correction of paintwork, lights, glass, mirrors etc The difference between a £500 Detail and a month long Detail really is like night and day.
I hope that helps in some way to give you a slight insight into whats involved in one of these jobs, obviously theres a million more things on top of those mentioned but its getting too late for that! Feel free to ask any more questions you may have though or PM me if you'd prefer.
Cheers,
Michael.
I also have a van and carry out mobile Detailing like you have had done on your own cars and charge approximately the same prices.
With regards to the Detail mentioned, I never usually feel the need to justify what I charge and this is no different but its always good to give others an insight into my working day/ week/ month. You answered your own question... well I actually spend in excess of 160 hours on one of these commissions or 1 month. I also do Leather Repair which can be time consuming and its amazing how quickly the time passes.
For instance:
Take all 4 wheels off of your car and then put them back on again.
unbolt all the seats in your car, remove them, fit them back in, bolt them back into place.
Remove all badges, emblems, bump strips from your car, replace them.
remove all headlights, tail lights, indicators from the car, then replace them.
etc etc etc...
How long did that take you? Thats without lifting a finger to clean anything!! Then on top of that, theres colour sanding, correction of paintwork, lights, glass, mirrors etc The difference between a £500 Detail and a month long Detail really is like night and day.
I hope that helps in some way to give you a slight insight into whats involved in one of these jobs, obviously theres a million more things on top of those mentioned but its getting too late for that! Feel free to ask any more questions you may have though or PM me if you'd prefer.
Cheers,
Michael.
msherry21 said:
Hi Laser Sag,
I also have a van and carry out mobile Detailing like you have had done on your own cars and charge approximately the same prices.
With regards to the Detail mentioned, I never usually feel the need to justify what I charge and this is no different but its always good to give others an insight into my working day/ week/ month. You answered your own question... well I actually spend in excess of 160 hours on one of these commissions or 1 month. I also do Leather Repair which can be time consuming and its amazing how quickly the time passes.
For instance:
Take all 4 wheels off of your car and then put them back on again.
unbolt all the seats in your car, remove them, fit them back in, bolt them back into place.
Remove all badges, emblems, bump strips from your car, replace them.
remove all headlights, tail lights, indicators from the car, then replace them.
etc etc etc...
How long did that take you? Thats without lifting a finger to clean anything!! Then on top of that, theres colour sanding, correction of paintwork, lights, glass, mirrors etc The difference between a £500 Detail and a month long Detail really is like night and day.
I hope that helps in some way to give you a slight insight into whats involved in one of these jobs, obviously theres a million more things on top of those mentioned but its getting too late for that! Feel free to ask any more questions you may have though or PM me if you'd prefer.
Cheers,
Michael.
An 8 hr detail is over in the blink of an eye, typically a general enhancement detail will take anything from 8-18 hrs depending on vehicle involved, i would say a mondeo would be around 12....regarding the cost of waxes and gauges they may be overheads but they dont pay for themselves, in most cases a generic wax or sealant will be included but the likes of Royale need to be replenished, in some cases free for licensed detailers....but initially the wax will cost around £8k plus the authorisation fee which is around £10k....who would pay for all this and not charge the relevant cost....and as Michael has said, wet sanding takes a while and is also not common place and not all detailers can perform it...long and short of it what your saying is that everything should be included simply because they are part of overheads....try that one next time your car goes in for a service at a main dealer, service cost PLUS parts, for details of the above capacity why should we be any different....in fairness I am not authorised by the big 2 and as of this moment have no intention of this, but I do still charge a premium for bespoke waxes or sealants....food for thought me thinks....I also have a van and carry out mobile Detailing like you have had done on your own cars and charge approximately the same prices.
With regards to the Detail mentioned, I never usually feel the need to justify what I charge and this is no different but its always good to give others an insight into my working day/ week/ month. You answered your own question... well I actually spend in excess of 160 hours on one of these commissions or 1 month. I also do Leather Repair which can be time consuming and its amazing how quickly the time passes.
For instance:
Take all 4 wheels off of your car and then put them back on again.
unbolt all the seats in your car, remove them, fit them back in, bolt them back into place.
Remove all badges, emblems, bump strips from your car, replace them.
remove all headlights, tail lights, indicators from the car, then replace them.
etc etc etc...
How long did that take you? Thats without lifting a finger to clean anything!! Then on top of that, theres colour sanding, correction of paintwork, lights, glass, mirrors etc The difference between a £500 Detail and a month long Detail really is like night and day.
I hope that helps in some way to give you a slight insight into whats involved in one of these jobs, obviously theres a million more things on top of those mentioned but its getting too late for that! Feel free to ask any more questions you may have though or PM me if you'd prefer.
Cheers,
Michael.
Here are acouple of examples of 100-200 hours detail
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
That car was with us for 18 weeks
This car was with us for 2 weeks
In keeping with the topic of 8K detail which TBH i think is a lot of marketing rubbish or the customers paying this are fools.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Lets say the ford GT detail was last than a quarter of the prices being thrown around .
Most of our work is for at least 3 days , some 2 and some a week with most cars saying with us for a week turnaround .
Last one this car took 2.5 weeks to do
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
I have more to post on DW in the future like above , many more super/hyper cars from 50 hours - 200 hours again for detailing .
Where does detailing stop , as you can remove engines to clean the compartment then clean and polish the engine and place engine back into perfect engine bay , or strip engine parts clean and polish re-fit back to engine , remove interiors and dash boards clean re-colour and re-fit , dent removal and car wraps are another service some detailers offer , clean strip chassis treat or even re-paint .
All of which i have done above and during on a car right now with over 20 items on the customers list , 1 item is detail with machine correction the rest is all of the above , other forms of detail .
Some say its not detailing but more restoration , i am not to argue really its just the word "detailing" is very over used and in fashion at present .
If i was called KDS restoration i bet i would get less hits than being called KDS detailing , i am going to really rock the boat and say as an example how much the work detailing or detailer is thrown around ,
the owner of the lambo link above along with his friend of another lambo (which will be a larger thread as i carried out more work to this one) which took around 300 hours were both at a PH monthly meet , chat got going and a guy walked over to my 2 customers banging on about how he is a detailier .
The conversion went along the lines "what do you do and use then" as one of my customers is very up on how its all done and takes a big interest in the "art" of detailing .
Now remember the detailer has seen the thread all about his yellow lambo which is why the chat started in the first place .
The answer was i dont use a rotory or dual action machine as "they" burn through paint !!! i do it all by hand .
You can guess it went down like this
Now this is not actually having a go at the person directly as everyone has to start some where , more the fact unless you have seen what can really be done with a lot of skill and know how for top guys then how can you compare .
The market is full of "snake oil" type products that promisr the earth and do wonderfull things , which many people and details get suckered into .
Then i read posts saying it only takes me 6 hours on my car so how comes detailers take so long .
People dont wash and wax their car anymore they "detail" it on a sunday now
I link the word detailing and compare it to surgery .
a nurse or doctor can stich up a small cut is that surgery of some form .
A dentist can perform a filling or remove a tooth is that surgery of some form
That have life changing surgery that could do that save your life still called surgery .
Hair transplant is surgery , hair cut is cosmetic
Face lift , chemical peel are surgery , make over for a few hours is cosmetic .
Detailing can be full on surgery only to be perform which correct equipment , knownledge , insurance , products and location , just the same as "real surgery" , just like real surgery long lasting with correct after care .
Detailing can be cosmetic with a quick fix not needed anywhere near the skill , equipment , knowledge etc , but this can be undone with in a few strong in correct washes , just like removing a womens makeup after a make over .
Lastly the 2 above do merge alot in the world of detailing so adding to the confusion of time scales and prices from one detailer to another .
No pop at any one or person intended just more a little into how i see the word "detailing" really
Kelly
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
That car was with us for 18 weeks
This car was with us for 2 weeks
In keeping with the topic of 8K detail which TBH i think is a lot of marketing rubbish or the customers paying this are fools.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Lets say the ford GT detail was last than a quarter of the prices being thrown around .
Most of our work is for at least 3 days , some 2 and some a week with most cars saying with us for a week turnaround .
Last one this car took 2.5 weeks to do
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
I have more to post on DW in the future like above , many more super/hyper cars from 50 hours - 200 hours again for detailing .
Where does detailing stop , as you can remove engines to clean the compartment then clean and polish the engine and place engine back into perfect engine bay , or strip engine parts clean and polish re-fit back to engine , remove interiors and dash boards clean re-colour and re-fit , dent removal and car wraps are another service some detailers offer , clean strip chassis treat or even re-paint .
All of which i have done above and during on a car right now with over 20 items on the customers list , 1 item is detail with machine correction the rest is all of the above , other forms of detail .
Some say its not detailing but more restoration , i am not to argue really its just the word "detailing" is very over used and in fashion at present .
If i was called KDS restoration i bet i would get less hits than being called KDS detailing , i am going to really rock the boat and say as an example how much the work detailing or detailer is thrown around ,
the owner of the lambo link above along with his friend of another lambo (which will be a larger thread as i carried out more work to this one) which took around 300 hours were both at a PH monthly meet , chat got going and a guy walked over to my 2 customers banging on about how he is a detailier .
The conversion went along the lines "what do you do and use then" as one of my customers is very up on how its all done and takes a big interest in the "art" of detailing .
Now remember the detailer has seen the thread all about his yellow lambo which is why the chat started in the first place .
The answer was i dont use a rotory or dual action machine as "they" burn through paint !!! i do it all by hand .
You can guess it went down like this
Now this is not actually having a go at the person directly as everyone has to start some where , more the fact unless you have seen what can really be done with a lot of skill and know how for top guys then how can you compare .
The market is full of "snake oil" type products that promisr the earth and do wonderfull things , which many people and details get suckered into .
Then i read posts saying it only takes me 6 hours on my car so how comes detailers take so long .
People dont wash and wax their car anymore they "detail" it on a sunday now
I link the word detailing and compare it to surgery .
a nurse or doctor can stich up a small cut is that surgery of some form .
A dentist can perform a filling or remove a tooth is that surgery of some form
That have life changing surgery that could do that save your life still called surgery .
Hair transplant is surgery , hair cut is cosmetic
Face lift , chemical peel are surgery , make over for a few hours is cosmetic .
Detailing can be full on surgery only to be perform which correct equipment , knownledge , insurance , products and location , just the same as "real surgery" , just like real surgery long lasting with correct after care .
Detailing can be cosmetic with a quick fix not needed anywhere near the skill , equipment , knowledge etc , but this can be undone with in a few strong in correct washes , just like removing a womens makeup after a make over .
Lastly the 2 above do merge alot in the world of detailing so adding to the confusion of time scales and prices from one detailer to another .
No pop at any one or person intended just more a little into how i see the word "detailing" really
Kelly
Morning all,
Interesting thread and a good discussion.
The yellow murcie that kelly refers to above is mine. Kelly has also done my bentley and is currently detailing/restoring an old 930 turbo for me.
The reason i say this, is that as you can see im now a real detailing convert. I work very hard to have my cars but have neither the time or more importantly the skill required to keep them to the standard that kelly does.
To me, as with most things in life you get what you pay for (i'll caveat that with im not so sure about an 8k detail!!). For me it started with me wanting my cars looking the best they can, not for the benefit of others, but for my own satisfaction. I discuss with Kelly what im looking to achieve with each car and then hand it over. Tbh having got to know kelly i dont even ask a price before due to the trust built up in our relationship.
Now.. apart form the satisfaction of having my cars looking great (and me trying to best to keep them swirl free when washing) there is a commercial beneft to me that i never initially considered.
Heres as example, my bentley (couple years old now) came back from its annual service. I then called dealership to pay bill. I was greeted with thats the cleanest GTC we have seen. A price was offered to me of more than i would expect and all because it still looks like new. So apart from my pleasure, the detailing has more than paid for itself in the end value i'll achieve when its sold on.
My murcie, because so many people have seen the thread it fairly well known. Again, at a lambo meet on saturday i had people telling me its the cleanest murcie they have seen. Again, if the time ever comes i sell it, its is known as a very cared for and clean car and will be reflected in the price i sell for.
This isnt me trying to brag, its just the benefits are maybe more than i initally realised.
As with most professions, there are very skilled detailers and others that maybe are not so skilled. Its finding the right person for you.
Apart from property, cars are the single biggest item i spend money on and mentally can justify to myself the money spent.
Could i spend 500 quid on a few products and try myslelf - yes. Will it look anything like having it done professionally - never!!
I hope the above makes sense, just the point of view of a convert of using a professional detailer.
On a seperate note, with the porsche, as kelly says my 'detailing' is bodywork, interior, wheels, engine, brakes, suspension, lights...... and the list goes on. Just depends how far the individual wants to take it.
In my mind what im getting back is a vastly improved car the to the one i left. And to me whats in my mind counts.
Just cant wait to see the before and after pictures!!
Cheers
Paul
Interesting thread and a good discussion.
The yellow murcie that kelly refers to above is mine. Kelly has also done my bentley and is currently detailing/restoring an old 930 turbo for me.
The reason i say this, is that as you can see im now a real detailing convert. I work very hard to have my cars but have neither the time or more importantly the skill required to keep them to the standard that kelly does.
To me, as with most things in life you get what you pay for (i'll caveat that with im not so sure about an 8k detail!!). For me it started with me wanting my cars looking the best they can, not for the benefit of others, but for my own satisfaction. I discuss with Kelly what im looking to achieve with each car and then hand it over. Tbh having got to know kelly i dont even ask a price before due to the trust built up in our relationship.
Now.. apart form the satisfaction of having my cars looking great (and me trying to best to keep them swirl free when washing) there is a commercial beneft to me that i never initially considered.
Heres as example, my bentley (couple years old now) came back from its annual service. I then called dealership to pay bill. I was greeted with thats the cleanest GTC we have seen. A price was offered to me of more than i would expect and all because it still looks like new. So apart from my pleasure, the detailing has more than paid for itself in the end value i'll achieve when its sold on.
My murcie, because so many people have seen the thread it fairly well known. Again, at a lambo meet on saturday i had people telling me its the cleanest murcie they have seen. Again, if the time ever comes i sell it, its is known as a very cared for and clean car and will be reflected in the price i sell for.
This isnt me trying to brag, its just the benefits are maybe more than i initally realised.
As with most professions, there are very skilled detailers and others that maybe are not so skilled. Its finding the right person for you.
Apart from property, cars are the single biggest item i spend money on and mentally can justify to myself the money spent.
Could i spend 500 quid on a few products and try myslelf - yes. Will it look anything like having it done professionally - never!!
I hope the above makes sense, just the point of view of a convert of using a professional detailer.
On a seperate note, with the porsche, as kelly says my 'detailing' is bodywork, interior, wheels, engine, brakes, suspension, lights...... and the list goes on. Just depends how far the individual wants to take it.
In my mind what im getting back is a vastly improved car the to the one i left. And to me whats in my mind counts.
Just cant wait to see the before and after pictures!!
Cheers
Paul
I think I understand what Kelly is getting at in that these £8K details are not really a detail but the beginnings of a refurb which is a whole different ball game.
Reflectology with regard to waxes I know some of them cost a silly amount of money but the amount used on a vehicle is only a very small quantity of the pot amount so would attract an uplift in cost but not in the region of thousands of pounds.Yes when I have my car serviced I will pay for a premium quality oil but I only pay for the amount that goes in the engine not the 250 litre drum they have out the back Having had my Tuscan detailked using the Royale wax I would have to be honest and say my eyes could not tell the difference between it and the Zymol I used at the time, to those who can best of luck and enjoy.
To those who have the money I hope you continue to use the likes of Kelly for these high end details ( to me refurbs) and having seen some of his work I am sure you will be as pleased as I was with James's work.
I would point out that I am not having a go at anyone here because I believe the skill these people have is amazing and their results speak for themselves.
Reflectology with regard to waxes I know some of them cost a silly amount of money but the amount used on a vehicle is only a very small quantity of the pot amount so would attract an uplift in cost but not in the region of thousands of pounds.Yes when I have my car serviced I will pay for a premium quality oil but I only pay for the amount that goes in the engine not the 250 litre drum they have out the back Having had my Tuscan detailked using the Royale wax I would have to be honest and say my eyes could not tell the difference between it and the Zymol I used at the time, to those who can best of luck and enjoy.
To those who have the money I hope you continue to use the likes of Kelly for these high end details ( to me refurbs) and having seen some of his work I am sure you will be as pleased as I was with James's work.
I would point out that I am not having a go at anyone here because I believe the skill these people have is amazing and their results speak for themselves.
Laser Sag said:
I think I understand what Kelly is getting at in that these £8K details are not really a detail but the beginnings of a refurb which is a whole different ball game.
Reflectology with regard to waxes I know some of them cost a silly amount of money but the amount used on a vehicle is only a very small quantity of the pot amount so would attract an uplift in cost but not in the region of thousands of pounds.Yes when I have my car serviced I will pay for a premium quality oil but I only pay for the amount that goes in the engine not the 250 litre drum they have out the back Having had my Tuscan detailked using the Royale wax I would have to be honest and say my eyes could not tell the difference between it and the Zymol I used at the time, to those who can best of luck and enjoy.
To those who have the money I hope you continue to use the likes of Kelly for these high end details ( to me refurbs) and having seen some of his work I am sure you will be as pleased as I was with James's work.
I would point out that I am not having a go at anyone here because I believe the skill these people have is amazing and their results speak for themselves.
Hi, Reflectology with regard to waxes I know some of them cost a silly amount of money but the amount used on a vehicle is only a very small quantity of the pot amount so would attract an uplift in cost but not in the region of thousands of pounds.Yes when I have my car serviced I will pay for a premium quality oil but I only pay for the amount that goes in the engine not the 250 litre drum they have out the back Having had my Tuscan detailked using the Royale wax I would have to be honest and say my eyes could not tell the difference between it and the Zymol I used at the time, to those who can best of luck and enjoy.
To those who have the money I hope you continue to use the likes of Kelly for these high end details ( to me refurbs) and having seen some of his work I am sure you will be as pleased as I was with James's work.
I would point out that I am not having a go at anyone here because I believe the skill these people have is amazing and their results speak for themselves.
we like james carryout most of our details in the same price range to HIM
You are correct on the LSP's (last step protections) meaning waxes or sealents , this was my meaning of "special snake oil's" a £20 wax is not going to be 10 times poorer than a £200 wax .
same can be said for a £300 detail (with correction) and a £3000 detail, the £3000 detail is not 10 times better in everyone's eyes or 10 times the improvement.
lets face it the company that started off all the expensive wax with its 7K per pot (which is refilled for free well there is a refilling fee but its tiny compared to the price of the first pot) means if you where turning over 100's of cars per year for detail the 7K wax would be very good value in deed for the detailer and also help with marketing and upgrading the lsp on the customers car .
You can get around 20-40 applications with such waxes from a pot even more if you wanted too .
A £10 wax jump to £30 or £50 wax you will see the difference , even a jump to £150 you can not so much see the difference but more in performance ,
ie the way it apllies and removes and the protection and lenght of protection it gives .
This does not mean i dont believe in high end expensive products , i use a sealent which cost near on £2 per ml .
The problem lies with lsp's can do different things (all subjective to the trained eye) things like , add gloss , add wetness , add depth , filling in minor marks , water sheeting , water beeding the list goes on .
But the most important thing for perfect paint will always be true correction .
Oh and by the way as i said my work even when refurb combined with full detail process does not come to anywhere near the 8K detail's ,
There will always be those who are willing to pay for the most expensive of any trade and product , its their money and they can do what they like with it , and if the company or person who charge as such have enough work then good on them i say .
In the world higher the facts and figures and promises the better it seems.
Kelly
kds keltec said:
But the most important thing for perfect paint will always be true correction ...
Even Halfords own label wax/LSP will make the car look great if the paint has been properly corrected.
But let me ask again - what is a good value/easy to use/durable LSP. Zymol/Zaino/Blackfire/AG ????
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