Old racing transporters and support vehicles

[mat777]

Hi everyone,

A friend of mine has a 109 Land Rover decked out in Foden's support vehicle livery and it does look rather smart.

Now, in a few years time I still plan to build a 109 with a J60 engine, and thought it would be a nice touch to deck it out with a Jaguar service/maintenance or race support vehicle livery. Whilst there are plenty of pictures of the Ecurie Ecosse transporter online, there dont seem to be any of the Jaguar factory team vehicles? Does anyone have any pictures of either the Jaguar or Lister le mans team transporters or towcars?

Thanks,

Matt

[lowdrag]

You know, that is a very interesting question, and one to which I am not sure there is an answer. Cars were driven from Coventry to the circuit in the old days up until 1954 when for Le Mans they flew to Le Touquet and drove the rest, the back-up vehicles mostly being MkVII's crammed with spares. I dug out the 1954 onwards Andrew Whyte book on racing Jaguars and the only transporter photo I found was a flatbed transporter with the 1955 Le Mans Mercedes on it! Now I know this won't be a lot of use, but here are a few from Daytona 24 Hours 1992:-

Edited by lowdrag on Tuesday 24th April 08:06

[occrj]

mat777 said:

Hi everyone,

A friend of mine has a 109 Land Rover decked out in Foden's support vehicle livery and it does look rather smart.

I know it well

mat777 said:

Now, in a few years time I still plan to build a 109 with a J60 engine, and thought it would be a nice touch to deck it out with a Jaguar service/maintenance or race support vehicle livery. Whilst there are plenty of pictures of the Ecurie Ecosse transporter online, there dont seem to be any of the Jaguar factory team vehicles? Does anyone have any pictures of either the Jaguar or Lister le mans team transporters or towcars?

Thanks,

Matt

There was a truck at Goodwood a few years ago, painted cream with Jaguar logos on it, I'm not sure it was an original vehicle but it looked the part.

RJ

[occrj]

By the way, Rover used a modified forward-control Landy (a prototype, possibly 2-ton I think??) to transport the Rover BRM gas turbine racing car in the 1960s. When my hauler was being rebuilt we made a few enquiries about the L-R, and it's rumoured to still be about somewhere.

RJ

[mat777]

Thankyou for the assistance lowdrag. That is a bit of a bummer, looks like I'll have to make a freelance livery! I presume the Lister knobblies were driven to events as well?

occrj said:

By the way, Rover used a modified forward-control Landy (a prototype, possibly 2-ton I think??) to transport the Rover BRM gas turbine racing car in the 1960s. When my hauler was being rebuilt we made a few enquiries about the L-R, and it's rumoured to still be about somewhere.

RJ

Hello Richard
I think I've seen pictures of that Landy, it was a 120" FC like "buttercup" the works LR truck, but adapted with the eezi-on rear end as seen on some converted 109 flatbeds. I dont know for sure whether it is still about (I'm normally quite clued up on which prototypes still exist) but as for the car... well, I'm sure you've heard the same story as me....
A BRM livery would be interesting for my project though, I'll have to mull it over and come up with a rival design to the Jaguar one floating round my head!

[occrj]

mat777 said:

Hello Richard
I think I've seen pictures of that Landy, it was a 120" FC like "buttercup" the works LR truck, but adapted with the eezi-on rear end as seen on some converted 109 flatbeds. I dont know for sure whether it is still about (I'm normally quite clued up on which prototypes still exist) but as for the car... well, I'm sure you've heard the same story as me....

The Rover-BRM was for some time in the same workshop as my truck, receiving some attentions and a change of power unit. Last heard of back at Gaydon in store, unless it's on display again now?

RJ

[mat777]

occrj said:

mat777 said:

Hello Richard
I think I've seen pictures of that Landy, it was a 120" FC like "buttercup" the works LR truck, but adapted with the eezi-on rear end as seen on some converted 109 flatbeds. I dont know for sure whether it is still about (I'm normally quite clued up on which prototypes still exist) but as for the car... well, I'm sure you've heard the same story as me....

The Rover-BRM was for some time in the same workshop as my truck, receiving some attentions and a change of power unit. Last heard of back at Gaydon in store, unless it's on display again now?

RJ

Without giving too much away (I've been told to keep quiet on the specifics), I had heard from an acquaintance that the car was under covers in a workshop, but they wouldnt say more specifically where than a county for fairly obvious reasons. I must presume that it was therefore your workshop in question?

Edited by mat777 on Tuesday 24th April 13:35

Edited by mat777 on Tuesday 24th April 13:39

[occrj]

mat777 said:

Without giving too much away (I've been told to keep quiet on the specifics), I had heard from an acquaintance that the car was under covers in a workshop, but they wouldnt say more specifically where than a county for fairly obvious reasons. I must presume that it was therefore your workshop in question?

Yes it was in a workshop, then another workshop in another county, then went back to whence it came (presumably Gaydon). We never found out where, if anywhere, the L-R transporter is though...

RJ

[mat777]

I'm fairly well connected within the LR community so I can certainly ask around for you - a reunion between the vehicles would be great

[occrj]

mat777 said:

I'm fairly well connected within the LR community so I can certainly ask around for you - a reunion between the vehicles would be great

It was the people who ran the workshop who were keen to get the LR and the car together really, but as they've packed up, and both vehicles are elsewhere, it'll be someone else who arranges that get together if it happens. It'd be a neat display.

RJ

[mat777]

Bad news I'm afraid...

Having asked around a bit, and got one friend to delve into his archives, it appears the truck was used as a general hack round the engineering department until it was so worn out it was broken up and scrapped. It would appear the rumours about it are either false or concerning a different truck

[RedexR]

This is still a very good idea for a picture thread , they have been filming the Rush movie on my doorstep and we have some interesting support vehicles in attendance

[Cheib]

Not Jag but this Ferrari one that Talacrest have is rather nice...plenty of photo's.

http://www.talacrest.com/Ferrari_Sales/Ferrari_Fac...

[Hooli]

I WANT that Marlboro Transit!

[Cheib]

Everything but Jaguar on this Flickr account

http://www.flickr.com/photos/brimen/sets/721576087...

Check out the Mercedes transporter on Page 2!

[Cheib]

Bingo...well at least it's Jag!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jane_sanders/46747617...

[soxboy]

Hooli said:

I WANT that Marlboro Transit!

Now you see that's going to put a cloud over the film for me as that's too late a model Transit for early-mid 70's racing. I'm now going to be bugged by errors like that and keeping an eye out for them. Sad I know!

[RedexR]

Agreed it is a later model but will probably only be seen in the distant background , some hopefully more correctly dated vehicles here ;















I have some more of this lovely little team Ferrari support vehicle somewhere as well

[guru_1071]

heres mine

[occrj]

Liking the Mini in the coach!

Had mine at Donington over the weekend...



RJ