HELP !! MG Midget start problems
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Hello. My 1500 MG Midget was starting and running fine 2 days ago however the battery was dead so I removed it and charged it up , reinstalled it today and nothing . I have checked all terminals fuses ect and no problems there . All the electronics in the car work lights ect, however the starter motor is not evan making a noise . I tried jumping it off my other car incase the battery was compleatly nakard and still nothing . I turned the starter motor by hand and its not stiff or seized . Im all out of ideas now can anybody help please ..
You've dislodged a wire while getting te battery in and out.
1) Low amp side; Starter solenoid doesn't get the message from the ignition key. Use a wire from the battery to the signal/small input of the solenoid and see if that starts it.
2) High amp side; Thick wire to starter motor isn't live, bad contact with battery or starter. Use a test bulb at one end then the other, put a jump lead across the big terminals of the starter or from battery to starter. Confidence pill required for this!
3) Earth. Earth lead is no longer joined from the engine to chassis (unlikely) or earth lead from battery to body/chassis not firmly connected. It might be well enough done to give the small amount of power for lights etc but not enough for the shed load of amps needed for the starter.
I would say it's unlikely the starter motor as you havn'et touched that.
1) Low amp side; Starter solenoid doesn't get the message from the ignition key. Use a wire from the battery to the signal/small input of the solenoid and see if that starts it.
2) High amp side; Thick wire to starter motor isn't live, bad contact with battery or starter. Use a test bulb at one end then the other, put a jump lead across the big terminals of the starter or from battery to starter. Confidence pill required for this!
3) Earth. Earth lead is no longer joined from the engine to chassis (unlikely) or earth lead from battery to body/chassis not firmly connected. It might be well enough done to give the small amount of power for lights etc but not enough for the shed load of amps needed for the starter.
I would say it's unlikely the starter motor as you havn'et touched that.
john2443 said:
You've dislodged a wire while getting te battery in and out.
1) Low amp side; Starter solenoid doesn't get the message from the ignition key. Use a wire from the battery to the signal/small input of the solenoid and see if that starts it.
2) High amp side; Thick wire to starter motor isn't live, bad contact with battery or starter. Use a test bulb at one end then the other, put a jump lead across the big terminals of the starter or from battery to starter. Confidence pill required for this!
3) Earth. Earth lead is no longer joined from the engine to chassis (unlikely) or earth lead from battery to body/chassis not firmly connected. It might be well enough done to give the small amount of power for lights etc but not enough for the shed load of amps needed for the starter.
I would say it's unlikely the starter motor as you havn'et touched that.
Tried 1) no joy nothing so shouldnt be that right1) Low amp side; Starter solenoid doesn't get the message from the ignition key. Use a wire from the battery to the signal/small input of the solenoid and see if that starts it.
2) High amp side; Thick wire to starter motor isn't live, bad contact with battery or starter. Use a test bulb at one end then the other, put a jump lead across the big terminals of the starter or from battery to starter. Confidence pill required for this!
3) Earth. Earth lead is no longer joined from the engine to chassis (unlikely) or earth lead from battery to body/chassis not firmly connected. It might be well enough done to give the small amount of power for lights etc but not enough for the shed load of amps needed for the starter.
I would say it's unlikely the starter motor as you havn'et touched that.
Tried 2)from battery to starter bang spark and flashed up like a dream . so its a bad contact then . ive checked all contacts and i cant seem to see any that are loose ect .
stressing .. i cant see anything different with the cables gave um all a tug test and they seem fine nice and tight
Try jump lead from one big terminal on the solenoid to the other. If that works then it's the solenoid. Unlikely cos nothing has changed there.
Then try each lead in turn using a jump lead to replicate it until you find the bad one - batt pos to solenoid in, solenoid out to starter, batt neg to engine (is there a good contact between the batt post and the clamp that's on it?
Then try each lead in turn using a jump lead to replicate it until you find the bad one - batt pos to solenoid in, solenoid out to starter, batt neg to engine (is there a good contact between the batt post and the clamp that's on it?
Quick update .I put power directly on the LT side of the solonoid . no joy . So Purchanced new solonoid and installed turened the key and.......... still nothing NOOOOOOOO . Im all outta ideas now . I thought it was that for sure . there definatly power on the ignition as testers read 12.2 v so is it on the WR wire between the ignition to the solonoid, i realy dont no now .
Is the solenoid properly earthed? Probably just be the bolts that hold it to the car.
When you put power into it from the thin wire from the ign it has to go out somewhere in order to go back to the battery, try running a wire from the battery earth side to the solenoid bracket then turn the key - may need an assistant or very long arms!
When you put power into it from the thin wire from the ign it has to go out somewhere in order to go back to the battery, try running a wire from the battery earth side to the solenoid bracket then turn the key - may need an assistant or very long arms!
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