Motorola Car Phones Early 1970s
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199 months

Friday 7th September 2012
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Anyone tell me more ?

Inc a photo if possible. The CSL aparently had one fitted from new in July 73.

I have been told that Motorola were the first to bring these out over here ?

I remember seeing a lovely Bronze / Gold S111 Intercepter in the late 80s that had the remains of one fitted.

roscobbc

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271 months

Friday 7th September 2012
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It was only in 1986/7 that duplex car phones became available - had been simplex (connected by operator) before and very exclusive. Had a Philips car phone fitted to a new 'D' registered 205 GTI back then. Cost was an unbelievable £1100!

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 8th September 2012
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I had a Motorola phone in my Granada in 1981, direct dial wold wide from Scandanivia but only worked in Scadanivia to send or receive calls, you had to manually select a country, Norway Sweeden Finland or Denmark, no automatic selection, used to work for about 20Km into Germany but never worked in the UK, but when I came to the UK on holiday it looked cool,

woodytype S

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266 months

Saturday 8th September 2012
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I had one fitted in my Toyota Supra,big box under the pasenger seat the size of a VCR player.

Deva Link

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274 months

Saturday 8th September 2012
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roscobbc said:
It was only in 1986/7 that duplex car phones became available - had been simplex (connected by operator) before and very exclusive. Had a Philips car phone fitted to a new 'D' registered 205 GTI back then. Cost was an unbelievable £1100!
The early one were VHF and called radiophones.

Re your Philips phone, that price sounds too low. I was the first field sales guy to get one (mine was Motorola) in our company in April 1987 and it cost 3 grand. If used when parked the engine had to be running or it would flatten the battery in 30 mins.

wildcat45

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218 months

Saturday 8th September 2012
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I remember Cellnet phones in cars around 1984/5. Neighbour had one from new in his 323i

Old Merc

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196 months

Saturday 8th September 2012
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We had one in our rally service van in the early eighties.Huge thing bolted to the dash with a big speaker.Trouble is every where we went rallying there was no service!!it only worked in towns and main roads.The team owner had another portable one,it was like walking in the pub with a phone on top of a car battery.We all laugh now but we were real cool dudes in those days.

SV8Predator

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194 months

Saturday 8th September 2012
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Edited by SV8Predator on Saturday 8th September 11:55

dartissimus

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203 months

Saturday 8th September 2012
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Saab 900i in about '87. If you used the phone without the engine running, it then wouldn't start for half an hour.
That was so long ago that it was in the days when everything was in black & white.

Jw Vw

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192 months

Saturday 8th September 2012
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SV8Predator said:




Edited by SV8Predator on Saturday 8th September 11:55
smokin

Cool photo.

16VJay

236 posts

248 months

Saturday 8th September 2012
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"Aircall" radiotelephone in the Interceptor?

roscobbc

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271 months

Saturday 8th September 2012
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Deva Link said:
The early one were VHF and called radiophones.

Re your Philips phone, that price sounds too low. I was the first field sales guy to get one (mine was Motorola) in our company in April 1987 and it cost 3 grand. If used when parked the engine had to be running or it would flatten the battery in 30 mins.
Can't remember whether that was £1100 including install or phone only - it was most definately the price, 20 channels I recall, huge power pack about the same size as a attache case but ten times heavier - not too much room in a 205 GTI. Like Deva I was a rep at the time and the cost was easily repaid by the significant additional business it bought in - probably as much for the novelty value as anything - business boomed for 9 to 12 months and then competitors 'caught-up' and then the 'system' couldn't handle the user no's within M25 where I was mainly active.

Carsie

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233 months

Saturday 8th September 2012
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Dad was a GP in the North East and had a car phone fitted to his Jag MK10 in the early '70's I know it was pre-1973.

It didn't have a telephone receiver as per SV8Predator Jensen or the Z cars but a radio mike clipped to the centre console.

You're right about not leaving it switched on for long lol!

I used to answer it when he was in seeing a patient- "Aircall Medic 30 zero over..." smile

The small ariel was mounted next to the fuel filler cap on the rear bulkhead. Our Jag was black and also Glasgow registered, the combination was to offer us much "street cred" when ever we visited over the border lol!

LouD86

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182 months

Saturday 8th September 2012
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I dont remember back that far, but I do remember my dads old XJ6 having one, so must be around 1990. Big ol thing! I still have his first truely mobile phone, well, battery pack in the briefcase jobby one!

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Original Poster:

8,489 posts

199 months

Sunday 9th September 2012
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Thanks all, Some Very intersting replys !

Re Aircall, in around March 1973, my dad bought a Silver V-12 E Type 2 x 2 ( BJN 438K Where are you now ? ) and subscribed to Aircall . He was Topaz 108.
As a then nearly 12 year old this Early Car phone fascinated me and back then a V 12 E Type especially in Silver ( Very rare colour ) was an extremely Desireable car.

One day I was out with him I think somewhere in West London, when we saw a young guy lying on the left pavement , propped up against a wall and bleeding badly from an arm and head wound if my memory is correct.

My Dad was an amazing guy and would help anyone , within seconds we had stopped and he called up the Aircall operator to ask her to send an Ambulance. he then rushed over to give first aid to the guy. I can still see him holding the guys arm trying to stop the bleeding.
Once the Ambulance arrived we left, thank god we had Aircall in that Jag !

CapriV6S

421 posts

171 months

Sunday 9th September 2012
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SV8Predator said:




Edited by SV8Predator on Saturday 8th September 11:55
Thx for Jensen pics.

Jensen did an option where back-seat-area was converted into a mobile office. Have info in Jensen book somewhere.
"Secretary" was extra.


wildcat45

8,159 posts

218 months

Sunday 9th September 2012
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So with Aircall. You had to have a callsign?

From what I understand from this, it was much like an emergency services, or ship to shore radio. There was a controller, who patched you through to a landline number.

DCor

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244 months

Sunday 9th September 2012
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dartissimus said:
Saab 900i in about '87. If you used the phone without the engine running, it then wouldn't start for half an hour.
That was so long ago that it was in the days when everything was in black & white.
Hi dartissimus, you weren't living in N Ireland in those days? I bought a 900i in late '87 with the phone gone but the rest of the kit (including rear wing mounted aeriel) intact. Great car - funny enough just came across pictures of it yesterday !

AutoClouseau

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236 months

Sunday 9th September 2012
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First car phone we had was a pye 9 channel one, which as has been said, was a ptt connected via the operator. They had a huge box hidden away, separate handset and control box, with a huge cb style antenna on car. This was then upgraded to a Storno 55 Channel version, but still via operator. You could listen to other calls being made, whilst you waited for a channel to become free! Think they were called officially as a gpo phone?
As cars were swapped on a regular basis, it got fitted to a huge briefcase to save swapping and leaving large holes in the cars.
Next version was a system 4, first direct dial, you had to pay for different sections of the UK you wanted to use it in, I recall London being one on its own, south, midlands and north being the others. Same thing with separate box, handset/keypad and huge antenna.
A few years later and the first portables were available. You could have a fixed phone, transportable which made one arm longer than the other after frequent use, or a Motorola 8000! 2 network providers, Cellnet or Voda and one line rental choice with no include calls!
Leasing of the equipment was the majority norm as they were thousands just for a in car one.

Need to dig some photos out, still have some of the phones in the loft, the 8500x Motorola is still one of my all time favourites, could be used in self defence now I recon it seems so big now, not to mention the extra batteries you had to carry, just to get through the day!

anonymous-user

83 months

Friday 14th September 2012
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CapriV6S said:
SV8Predator said:




Edited by SV8Predator on Saturday 8th September 11:55
Thx for Jensen pics.

Jensen did an option where back-seat-area was converted into a mobile office. Have info in Jensen book somewhere.
"Secretary" was extra.
Usually a rental!