New cars at classic shows ??
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ian2144

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Thursday 14th February 2013
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I have been at a few classic shows/events with my Caterham. you could also turn up at a show in a brand new Morgan and no one would bother. There can't be many other new cars you could put on a club stand at a classic show.
Ferrari is the only other one that springs to mind at the momment.

LotusOmega375D

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182 months

Thursday 14th February 2013
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You should try getting in at our local event. If it's not pre-1982 it's not coming in.

LuS1fer

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274 months

Friday 15th February 2013
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I suspect the Mustang might make it to illustrate the evolution.

smiffy220

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179 months

Friday 15th February 2013
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Must admit I see lots of moderns at my local classic car shows. They tend to be Ford owners clubs of one ilk or another, Fiesta's, Puma's, Focus's etc, I walk straight passed!!

ian2144

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Friday 15th February 2013
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smiffy220 said:
Must admit I see lots of moderns at my local classic car shows. They tend to be Ford owners clubs of one ilk or another, Fiesta's, Puma's, Focus's etc, I walk straight passed!!
Yes I agree with you on this, but my reference was to current new cars on sale at the moment,

na

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263 months

Friday 15th February 2013
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it depends if you're in a stuffy club or show with a load of old f*rts or the more enlightened

I used to delight in taking a 'wrong' model or marque or age of car

and I'd love to hear what was 'wrong' with my car or marque and what was so very right with the spokesperson's car or marque especially if I also owned or had owned the much better car or marque they were referring to and knew all the faults with their choice biggrin

na

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263 months

Friday 15th February 2013
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ian2144 said:
smiffy220 said:
Must admit I see lots of moderns at my local classic car shows. They tend to be Ford owners clubs of one ilk or another, Fiesta's, Puma's, Focus's etc, I walk straight passed!!
Yes I agree with you on this, but my reference was to current new cars on sale at the moment,
I suggest you both check out some of the examples as the standards of presentation and originality can be equal to the highest

I remember a good few years ago now being staggered by the standard of a Ford Fiesta at a Country Fayre and that was about the same time our club stand was next to the Autoglym concours stand at the NEC so I was well aware of the highest standards (not counting Peeble Beach(?) multi-millionaire stuff)

it's not so easy to get or keep a less loved model or marque so original or well presented

in the early 80s a lot of what some call 'classics' at the shows then were newer than the 'modern' cars now at shows

lowdrag

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242 months

Friday 15th February 2013
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In another thread I quoted the Mustang as one of the few classics still in production; I mena still on a live axle? someone else thoughtfully posted that the new Morgan 3-wheeler should also qualify too.

S47

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209 months

Friday 15th February 2013
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Classic show have changed over past 15 years, 15 Years ago you would never have got entry with a modern tintop, nowadays however shows appear to be sponsored by local tintop dealers, so theres always 1/2 a field of newish cars/4x4's.
last time I went to Pencoed show I was told to park my Lotus 7 between a line of new pickup trucks and 4x4s, when I objected & spoke/queried with the steward who told me to park there why? He told me if I didn't want to park there to fk off home.
FFS a classic car show ought to be just that. I don't want my pride and joy enticing show visitors to look at new cars. I guess the pencoed organiserss thought it was a good Idea to park Classics amongst the new cars to giv e the salesmen an opportunity to grab the visitors.
So 'fk off home' I did.
Needless to say I won't be going to Pencoed show EVER againmad

Edited by S47 on Friday 15th February 10:14

droopsnoot

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271 months

Friday 15th February 2013
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I find that it varies from show to show - one of the organisers I deal with says that you must have at least 75% of your stand made up of cars more than 25 years old, so if you want moderns they have to be a small proportion of the display.

I think the odd "interesting" modern car doesn't go amiss at a classic show, but it did used to wind me up when there seemed to be just showroom cars, and uninteresting ones at that. I guess it depends on the show really - one I attend at Tatton is called the "Classic and Performance Car" show so there's some modern stuff there. We've got a club member with a 1990 BMW 3-series in very good order who was a little unsure about bringing it, but it's 23 years old now, just doesn't look it.

stuartmmcfc

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221 months

Friday 15th February 2013
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Conversely, I get sick of seeing mgbs

DocArbathnot

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212 months

Friday 15th February 2013
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stuartmmcfc said:
Conversely, I get sick of seeing mgbs
I know what you mean, but they are popular for a reason. I like to see a well turned out GT.

smiffy220

181 posts

179 months

Friday 15th February 2013
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ian2144 said:
smiffy220 said:
Must admit I see lots of moderns at my local classic car shows. They tend to be Ford owners clubs of one ilk or another, Fiesta's, Puma's, Focus's etc, I walk straight passed!!
Yes I agree with you on this, but my reference was to current new cars on sale at the moment,
Sorry mate, missed the point a little with my comment. If I'm honest, I'm so un-interested in modern cars and whats currently for sale anyway, I would probably walk right passed any new car stand and think it was part of the car park.
Therefore I haven't noticed if that is happening at my local shows in Essex or not.

The Surveyor

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266 months

Friday 15th February 2013
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Classic Car shows are often attended by Clubs. Clubs will allow you to join (and quite rightly) whether you own one straight of the production line, have a tired 20 year old version, or a perfect restored 40 year old classic. If the 'club' is attending a classic car show, then you'll get cars from the full spectrum.

Sometimes it's nice to see a new Aston, Maserati, Lambo amongst the sea of MGB's, TR6's and Stags.

Why would you stop somebody turning up in one of these parking amongst his club mates:-



Paul

ian2144

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Friday 15th February 2013
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lowdrag said:
In another thread I quoted the Mustang as one of the few classics still in production; I mena still on a live axle? someone else thoughtfully posted that the new Morgan 3-wheeler should also qualify too.
I would think that any brand new Morgan would qualify.

Motown Junk

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246 months

Friday 15th February 2013
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Don't get me started on the PT Cruisers that arrive enmasse at American/Hot Rod showsmad

na

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Friday 15th February 2013
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S47 said:
what was said
in the mid-90s I got fed up taking my car to shows with my local club where the show was for the monetary benefit of the organizer and local modern car dealers

so I stopped going to them and only go to car shows that are for the benefit of charities

ClassicMotorNut

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167 months

Friday 15th February 2013
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ian2144 said:
I have been at a few classic shows/events with my Caterham. you could also turn up at a show in a brand new Morgan and no one would bother. There can't be many other new cars you could put on a club stand at a classic show.
Ferrari is the only other one that springs to mind at the momment.
Yeah, that's basically right, kit cars, supercars and Morgans are the only new cars you could really take to classic shows. Still, doesn't stop some bloke with his Ford Onion turning up at some of my locals.

mgeee

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Friday 15th February 2013
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Some people just try their luck to get in free. Some shows now are so badly attended they seem glad to take anything. They forget it puts the paying public off for the next year.

dbdb

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202 months

Friday 15th February 2013
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Most new and fairly new cars do look a bit out of place at a classic car show, but to me the whole classic car movement seems stuck in 1995 with its views on what is and isn't of "classic car age", preserved in aspic. The orion came out thirty years ago - it is hardly modern. Was the Triumph 1300 a modern car in 1995? That was the same age then as an Orion is now.