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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1971-Triumph-TR6-Red-Con...
No info, low price, no seller previous
What do they get out of it, how does the scam work..?
No info, low price, no seller previous
What do they get out of it, how does the scam work..?
I've not looked at this one, but when I used to watch the Jaguar adverts regularly you'd see the same pictures being used again and again. The scam artists would basically copy an original, probably genuine advert. By watching the ads you got to be able to spot them. I could never get anyone at eBay to take any notice however.
A similar advert on Ebay for a Daimler was up earlier this evening, but seems to have been withdrawn.
http://www.xj40.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5750&a...
http://www.xj40.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5750&a...
Skyedriver said:
So do they use the pics, hope someone will buy unseen and send them the cash...
Are people realy that gullible?
I'v never bought unseen would possibly, but would only hand over the cash once I went to collect.
I would imagine there are several ways they could make money. Are people realy that gullible?
I'v never bought unseen would possibly, but would only hand over the cash once I went to collect.
The easiest would be to ask for a "refundable" cash deposit, before you view , to hold the car for you.
I can't understand why it's difficult to catch these scammers. Probably E-Bay don't want to put the resources into it and it's simpler to just remove the listing.
Welcome to the murky world of Internet scamming.
Some are undoubtedly after a deposit, but some are just after your email address and the knowledge that you're a real person, possibly a real person with an interesting in classic cars.
I once tried the "email me because I don't read the eBay mail too often" route. Only I didn't use my normal email address. I used one associated with a domain I control and can easily monitor. Two things happened.
1) that email address immediately started to receive loads of SPAM, not sure why I'd be interested in both p***s enlargement and also a boob job, but I got lots of offers for cut price ops...etc.
2) that email address was then used to send out a loads of SPAM, I then got to see the rejected mail which bounced back to "me" as the sender.
"real" email addresses have a value on the darker side of the net.
Most of these scams are launched from stolen/hacked ebay accounts. Try looking at other items sold by the sellers.
Other wise they are from sellers with no previous form. Stolen accounts are probably much easier, they're likely to already have everything setup as a seller, so the scam artist doesn't need to configure billing info with ebay/paypal in order to setup as a seller.
Some are undoubtedly after a deposit, but some are just after your email address and the knowledge that you're a real person, possibly a real person with an interesting in classic cars.
I once tried the "email me because I don't read the eBay mail too often" route. Only I didn't use my normal email address. I used one associated with a domain I control and can easily monitor. Two things happened.
1) that email address immediately started to receive loads of SPAM, not sure why I'd be interested in both p***s enlargement and also a boob job, but I got lots of offers for cut price ops...etc.
2) that email address was then used to send out a loads of SPAM, I then got to see the rejected mail which bounced back to "me" as the sender.
"real" email addresses have a value on the darker side of the net.
Most of these scams are launched from stolen/hacked ebay accounts. Try looking at other items sold by the sellers.
Other wise they are from sellers with no previous form. Stolen accounts are probably much easier, they're likely to already have everything setup as a seller, so the scam artist doesn't need to configure billing info with ebay/paypal in order to setup as a seller.
Throttle Body said:
Doesn't Ebay/PayPal operate an escrow to hold the money until the vehicle is picked up? That ought to reduce the scamming.
I suppose that the risks reduce dramatically if you view before you buy. So long as you do this, you should be fairly safe.
they send a fake paypal invoice (avoiding ebay) to try beating thatI suppose that the risks reduce dramatically if you view before you buy. So long as you do this, you should be fairly safe.
Old Merc said:
What about legit ads ? I`m going to advertise my classic this year,(not on ebay)do these scammers target sellers as well? what is there to look out for? any tips ?
they target sellers thus..."Hi, your car (advertised say at £3000) is just what I want, i am not in the UK, I have to pay a supplier £1500 for something, if I send you a cheque for £6000 can you pay my man his £1500, he will collect the car, you may keep the remaining £4500"
I advertised a car for £1500 and a buyer tried this, sent a cheque for £4000 which i banked
after 3 days the cheque cleared.... and my landline rang from a London number but i didnt answer it
next day the cheque bounced, its a quirk of the clearing system that this can happen
it turned out the company cheque was stolen from a london office (probably by cleaners) but was posted from lagos
BTW, remember a Paypal payment can bounce and be snatched back if the card used to pay iy with is dodgy...
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