XK120 Picture, Anyone know the car?
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RobinSherwood

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336 posts

244 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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Hi there,

I have just scanned this picture of a Jaguar XK120, this car was I believe my father's second new car after the war.

I have done a Google search for the registration number LXW 971 but nothing comes up.

The car would of been supplied new to him by Henly's.


TonyRPH

13,536 posts

197 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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That reg number doesn't come up on either the DVLA website, or one of the HPI type car check sites.

Which suggests that the car could be in the great scrapyard in the sky, or the number has been changed.

RobinSherwood

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336 posts

244 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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Another picture of the car with the roof up


RobinSherwood

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Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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Another picture showing more detail of the interior. Looks like it hard some sort of two tone leather.


strath44

1,370 posts

177 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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sorry don't know the car but the River / Glen pictured looks familiar, do you know where that is?

RobinSherwood

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Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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strath44 said:
sorry don't know the car but the River / Glen pictured looks familiar, do you know where that is?
Hi,

I know the location of the 1st photo but not the others. I'm afraid they were taken about 20 years before I was born!

Kind regards,

Robin

lowdrag

13,183 posts

242 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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Lovely evocative photos sir, and I thnk you for them. You Dad must have had some pull in those days after the war since that car is March 1951 registered and I know from living in a meagre Ford dealership that my Dad could sell any car he wanted at well over list due to the "export or die" regime at the time. Waiting lists ran into years for any car.

RobinSherwood

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Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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lowdrag said:
Lovely evocative photos sir, and I thnk you for them. You Dad must have had some pull in those days after the war since that car is March 1951 registered and I know from living in a meagre Ford dealership that my Dad could sell any car he wanted at well over list due to the "export or die" regime at the time. Waiting lists ran into years for any car.
Thanks for that reply. Out of interest how do you know it is 1951 registered? (I am not doubting you by the way just curious to know what gives it away).

He was a doctor and his first wife (ie not my mother) was Bertie Henly's only daughter (Henlys Garages) and apparently he declared to my father if he was going to marry his daughter he would need a car to make people think he was as successful as he would need to be in order to keep his daughter in the way she was accustomed. He therefore arranged with Bill Lyons for my father to get an early XK120 (he was told at the time it was an alloy bodied one). He didn't get a discount apparently even from his own father in law!

Out of interest his first new car after the war was an Armstrong-Siddely Hurricane, this was before he was married.


ToneyCaroney

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213 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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I'm curious about the indicator lenses. Not seen that style on an XK before. Lowdrag will probably have some info.

Btw, I like the father in laws commitment to his profession; you can marry my daughter but only if you buy a car off me. Inspired!

RobinSherwood

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Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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ToneyCaroney said:
I'm curious about the indicator lenses. Not seen that style on an XK before. Lowdrag will probably have some info.

Btw, I like the father in laws commitment to his profession; you can marry my daughter but only if you buy a car off me. Inspired!
Well he didn't become the biggest motor dealer in the South for nothing. I understand he had a deal with Sir George Kenning, Kenning's had the North and Henly's the South.....

My father later annoyed his father-in-law by buying his Jaguars from John Coombs instead.

lowdrag

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242 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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If you want to check out any car history as far as original registration details are concerned they can be found here:-

http://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/registrations/reg-l...

So, if you want to know when a car was registered and when, it isn't smoke and mirrors but a simple google.

I do so love the car, so pure in that it has the rear spats and steel wheels, but I'm afraid it isn't one of the original alloy cars - far too late for that. But thanks for the story; we are all enriched by such stories.


a8hex

5,832 posts

252 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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Do you know any more details of the XK?
Chassis number would make it easiest.

You can start by looking on http://xkdata.com

Which lists a great many of the extant XKs.

You could then try the XK Club (http://www.xkclub.com) where the main archivist is David Bentley, he has the details of many XKs including their older registration numbers.

Another good source of information would be the XK forum on Jag-Lovers (http://www.jag-lovers.com)

The more information you are able to provide the more chance there is of finding the car, and possibly making contact with current owner. I was recently contacted by the third owner of my XK150, who owned the car back in 1960.

RobinSherwood

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336 posts

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Wednesday 4th September 2013
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lowdrag said:
If you want to check out any car history as far as original registration details are concerned they can be found here:-

http://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/registrations/reg-l...

So, if you want to know when a car was registered and when, it isn't smoke and mirrors but a simple google.

I do so love the car, so pure in that it has the rear spats and steel wheels, but I'm afraid it isn't one of the original alloy cars - far too late for that. But thanks for the story; we are all enriched by such stories.
Tony,

Thanks for that link, very interesting I have book marked that for future reference.

It can be hard to build all the correct facts when going through old slides and photographs especially when the man himself is no longer around to answer questions! He had a succession of Jaguars from XK120, XK140, XK150 and a succession of E types ending with a V12 which he hated and only kept a few months. He told me he had a lightweight 120 so either he was incorrect or it may have preceeded the car in the pictures, I just assumed this was it when I came accross the photographs.

The story of how he came to buy the Armstrong-Siddeley is quite interesting if anyone is interested.

RobinSherwood

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244 months

Wednesday 4th September 2013
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a8hex said:
Do you know any more details of the XK?
Chassis number would make it easiest.

You can start by looking on http://xkdata.com

Which lists a great many of the extant XKs.

You could then try the XK Club (http://www.xkclub.com) where the main archivist is David Bentley, he has the details of many XKs including their older registration numbers.

Another good source of information would be the XK forum on Jag-Lovers (http://www.jag-lovers.com)

The more information you are able to provide the more chance there is of finding the car, and possibly making contact with current owner. I was recently contacted by the third owner of my XK150, who owned the car back in 1960.
Thanks for that. The photographs are the only record I knowingly have of the car so unfortunately the only detail I know is the registration. I will check out that website though and see if David Bentley has any record of that registration being on a car.

guru_1071

2,768 posts

263 months

Wednesday 4th September 2013
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RobinSherwood said:
The story of how he came to buy the Armstrong-Siddeley is quite interesting if anyone is interested.
he wasn't a major in the army during ww2 was he?

if he was this story is going to be interesting!

a8hex

5,832 posts

252 months

Wednesday 4th September 2013
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RobinSherwood said:
Thanks for that. The photographs are the only record I knowingly have of the car so unfortunately the only detail I know is the registration. I will check out that website though and see if David Bentley has any record of that registration being on a car.
Oh well, that was always going to be a long shot, few people "in period" know their chassis numbers.
The add on front indicators are rather distinctive, of course if the car still exists, there is no guarantee that they're still fitted, but scanning through photo's of 120s they'd stick out as an easy recognition point.

In your reply to Tony you mention a "light weight" 120, this is usually a term applied to the early batch of "Alloy" 120s before they got the 120 bodies ready for real production.

Does anyone remember the colour? old colour photo's don't make like easy, in a couple of the shots it looks brownish, in one a much more likely grey. Does anyone remember the year? (the reg indicates Mar 51 onwards) The interior is clearly red, so that limits the colour options if the paint is original. Most of the greys were available with red interiors. But this should help limit the number of cars to be searched. Feb 51 (giving time for shipping) starts with chassis 660729, March at 660733 (not much call for an OTS at that time of year?)

wedgeinald

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219 months

Wednesday 4th September 2013
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TonyRPH said:
That reg number doesn't come up on either the DVLA website, or one of the HPI type car check sites.

Which suggests that the car could be in the great scrapyard in the sky, or the number has been changed.
Shows as insured on the Motor Isurance Database....

TonyRPH

13,536 posts

197 months

Wednesday 4th September 2013
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wedgeinald said:
TonyRPH said:
That reg number doesn't come up on either the DVLA website, or one of the HPI type car check sites.

Which suggests that the car could be in the great scrapyard in the sky, or the number has been changed.
Shows as insured on the Motor Isurance Database....
I see that now, and yet...


orbtar

443 posts

212 months

Wednesday 4th September 2013
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It should be easy enough to trace as I think it is one of only two Lavender Grey cars that were built with a black hood. I don't have my main book with me so cannot find any further detail yet.

RobinSherwood

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244 months

Thursday 5th September 2013
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guru_1071 said:
he wasn't a major in the army during ww2 was he?

if he was this story is going to be interesting!
He was an honorary Major, he was not actually in the armed forces but was given a rank in case he was captured.