Wing mirrors, door mirrors

[Ubendum]

Does anyone know when factory fitted wing mirrors were replaced by factory fitted door mirrors on family cars only that were sold on the UK market?

I would expect that the period was spread over several years, but any help is appreciated.

[GavinPearson]

Early 70s. I had a Triumph with wing mirrors sold in 73, by the mid 70s the bulk of cars had door mirrors.

[Riley Blue]

Isn't it likely to be the result of the introduction of legislation relating to pedestrian safety?

[KelWedge]

Riley Blue said:

Isn't it likely to be the result of the introduction of legislation relating to pedestrian safety?

More to do with, wing mirrors being useless, and or falling thro the wing when the wing rusted away

Pedestrian safety back in the 70's, I doubt it, had not got much driver safety back then.

[hot metal]

I had a Triumph with wing mirrors, all I ever saw through them was the wings. 1978 RS2000 had door mirrors, much better.

[Corpulent Tosser]

Ubendum said:

Does anyone know when factory fitted wing mirrors were replaced by factory fitted door mirrors on family cars only that were sold on the UK market?

I would expect that the period was spread over several years, but any help is appreciated.

Oddly many cars didn't come with factory fitted wing mirrors, certainly Fords didn't. As an apprentice in the early 70s one of my tasks was to measure and drill the wings to accept mirrors.
No wonder the wings then rusted and the mirrors fell off as the holes had no paint protection.

Edited by Corpulent Tosser on Sunday 8th September 12:39

[varsas]

Corpulent Tosser said:

Ubendum said:

Does anyone know when factory fitted wing mirrors were replaced by factory fitted door mirrors on family cars only that were sold on the UK market?

I would expect that the period was spread over several years, but any help is appreciated.

Oddly many cars didn't come with factory fitted wing mirrors, certainly Fords didn't. As an apprentice in the early 70s one of my tasks was to measure and drill the wings to accept mirrors.
No wonder the wings then rusted and the mirrors fell off as the holes had no paint protection.

Jaguars are the same. If it helps I believe the first XJ's factory fitted with door mirrors were the SII from '74 onwards, certainly the S1 were never factory fitted with mirrors(?), I believe wing mirrors were dealer-fit.

I always thought people assumed it was too much of a focusing/eye movement to look at a door mirror, obviously that isn't the case (it's easier to look down at a nice big image of what's behind you then squint at a wing mirror, even if it's more in your direct line of sight) but I assumed that's why they did them? Or was it just looks?

[Riley Blue]

Wasn't there a requirement for one external mirror in addition to the interior mirror? I remember seeing cars with a mirror on the offside wing but not one the nearside.

[DonkeyApple]

Riley Blue said:

Wasn't there a requirement for one external mirror in addition to the interior mirror? I remember seeing cars with a mirror on the offside wing but not one the nearside.

Even in the 80s the near side mirror was seemingly a decadent addition on many cars.

As a child, the extra mirror on the offside was as classy as two exhaust pipes or double lamps.

[john2443]

My dad had a series of Mk1 and Mk Escorts in the 60s & 70s, wing mirrors were an extra, I don't think they ever were standard.

I learned on OKU 66L (Signal yellow 1100L) which had wing mirrors, the first of his Mk2s had wing mirrors as well, that was N reg 1975 (Beige ).

When I bought my first Mk1 (DRR 675J) in 79 it didn't have any external mirrors, I fitted one door mirror so I guess by then they had become the thing to fit rather than wing mirrors.