Whats a Jaguar E-type 3.8 engine complete worth ?

Whats a Jaguar E-type 3.8 engine complete worth ?

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goodwoodweirdo

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315 posts

195 months

Wednesday 27th November 2013
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Any help, points much appricated... even engine numbers before I get to excited... The MK2, S type and 420 where all fitted with X2 Su's I think only the E had the x3 ..

cheers
Matt

johnfm

13,674 posts

263 months

Wednesday 27th November 2013
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you buying or selling?

Spec? Stock innards to fancy steel bits?

Condition? Newly rebuilt or as is?

Warranty?

V8 FOU

3,011 posts

160 months

Wednesday 27th November 2013
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Mk10 had 3 carbs.
very easy to put 3 carbs on an "ordinary" 3.8.
No big difference anyway - the so-called straight port head fitted to the E Type etc wasn't massively better that the squiggle port. Especially after being gas flowed. From the factory, the E Type heads were painted gold - but that too is easy to fake.

a8hex

5,830 posts

236 months

Wednesday 27th November 2013
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As V8 says, Mk10s and also 420G had the triple carbs. Before them the XK150S had triple carbs too.
That would be the most valuable engine.
You can look up the engine/head numbers on http://www.jag-lovers.org/xk-lovers/library/engine...

If you want to be really sure then there was a series of details discussions on the different casting numbers used in the XK forum on Jag-Lovers earlier this year. They'd be harder to fake and are much less well know.

goodwoodweirdo

Original Poster:

315 posts

195 months

Wednesday 27th November 2013
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Its been dropped into a MK2 340 man..

condidition as is .. not been on the road 10 years so ready for a rebuild I guess, the triple carbs had me excited, but I guess then its a MK10 motor or just X3 carb installation...



cheers
Matt

RichB

53,724 posts

297 months

Wednesday 27th November 2013
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OOI what is the X3 in relation to SU carbs?

Huntsman

8,649 posts

263 months

Wednesday 27th November 2013
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E type triples have differnet manifolds and sit lower and manual choke.

Mk10 triples have auto choke and higher manifolds.

That engine is worth about £750 to £1000.

If the carbs are E type then they are £1000.

If the carbs are mk10 then about £200 to £300.

Might bwe a little out of date with those prices.

jith

2,752 posts

228 months

Wednesday 27th November 2013
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goodwoodweirdo said:
Its been dropped into a MK2 340 man..

condidition as is .. not been on the road 10 years so ready for a rebuild I guess, the triple carbs had me excited, but I guess then its a MK10 motor or just X3 carb installation...



cheers
Matt
The major difference between the MK X and the E Type carbs is that the MK X had an auto choke unit, whereas the E was manual, making the carbs quite different on the bottom sections. The engine in the photo has an auto choke setup. They also ran different needles as the air filter and compression ratio was different between the 2 cars. If you look at the cylinder head immediately in front of the first spark plug you will see the engine number that ends with a /8 or/9. That tells you the compression ratio.

The 3 carb manifold will not fit an ordinary MK2 head, it has to be straight port. However if the car is a 340 as opposed to a 3.4 MK2, it will have a straight port head anyway. It could have had a complete engine change, in which case it would be a 4.2. If you look underneath the carbs on the same side of the block it will tell you the engine size.

The engine in the pics is running pancake filters, so the carbs will have to have different needles fitted if not already done so.

J

a8hex

5,830 posts

236 months

Wednesday 27th November 2013
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If it's a 340 that had the straight port head so it could be the original engine. As Huntsman says, the E-type inlet curls down to keep a lower bonnet line. The Mk10 manifold keeps the carb centres at the same height as the inlet ports.
Its not easy to tell from the photo but I think the manifold looks more like the 4.2 one (which I think would be the easy one to fit to a 340's head) rather than the 3.8 one.
The 3.8's inlet manifold is in three pieces with a water pipe across the top.

This is a 3.8 E-Type manifold I bought by mistake, I needed a Mk10 one, the E-Type one fouls the steering column on a RHD XK150.



This is a 4.2 Mk10 manifold with triple carbs on my XK150



Edited by a8hex on Wednesday 27th November 19:57

Sorry my posting coincided with Jith's if there's any disagreement, I'm probably wrong



Edited by a8hex on Wednesday 27th November 19:58

lowdrag

13,094 posts

226 months

Thursday 28th November 2013
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I trump your 3.8 with a 5.3....................



Yes, I know I've posted it before but I still like it! Incidentally E-type 3.8 engines were numbered from R1001 upwards. I forget without looking up the numbering for the other models. Mine is R1798-9 for example, indicating, like most cars, 9:1 compression.

Oh, and before I forget, 3.8 E-type engines are getting rare and prices are going up.

Edited by lowdrag on Thursday 28th November 07:04