Ascona 400 replica build
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retropower

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Monday 16th December 2013
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Will update this one in a bit, half of the album of pics I was going to use has gone missing!

Edited by retropower on Tuesday 17th December 09:10

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Tuesday 17th December 2013
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As an ex-Manta owner I hope you find the pictures - I'm looking forward to the updates!

retropower

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Sunday 22nd December 2013
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Right! In the absence of the right photos, I'll make this thread the detail of ascona 400R build no. 2 (of the 4 we've been doing)

The starting point for this one was a VERY rare 2 door RHD ascona, there are only a handful of these in existence now, there are a few futher cars that have been built from mk1 cavalier 2 door shells with ascona front ends grafted on, plenty made from LHD cars (the 4th one we're doing is one of these) and certainly one I know of built from a 4 door shell fitted with 2 door complete body sides!













Lots of Rot, the usual for a '70's Opel!!

and oh dear, bodged vinyl roof remnants together with a horrid aftermarket sunroof...that needs to go!



first step, get it stripped down to a bare shell, every last nut and bolt gone...



more rust!





Next step, burn off the underseal and seam sealer then fire up the blaster and get it to bare metal and see what's left!



Edited by retropower on Sunday 22 December 20:09

retropower

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Sunday 22nd December 2013
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Following blasting!























well that's enough of that! time to get mending it!

retropower

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Sunday 22nd December 2013
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we'll start with a bit of light sill and 1/4 panel repair.

















and then we'll continue with a few randomly selected metalwork shots, as there are rather a lot to go through!

























and off with the roof!



prep the new skin



and fit it







will continue in a bit!

chr15b

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Sunday 22nd December 2013
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Will be interesting to see this take shape

retropower

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Sunday 22nd December 2013
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enough of metalwork, onto body prep and bodykit fitting!



the bodykit fits roughly the same as it might fit a fiesta!

so lots of work to do




















retropower

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Sunday 22nd December 2013
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all painted, salisbury 4ha rear axle built, front end all built up following in house media blasting and recoating, zinc plating of all fasteners etc, time to start with the fun bits!









we carry out flocking in-house too (as with most things!) so there's some of that going on too:








retropower

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Sunday 22nd December 2013
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This brings us nearly up to date on this one (it gets complicated in terms of timelines, we are working on upwards of 20 cars at any one time!)

Now we get to the interesting bit, and the bit where we could be either brave or foolish!

My own background is development/prototype/production engineering, and the owner of this ascona wanted serious power output, but dislikes turbo type power delivery (as I do)

We decided that a positive displacement supercharger fitted to the ever reliable vauxhall XE 16v engine would provide comfortably over 300hp with instant throttle response and no lag.

not something available off the shelf, so time to fire up the milling machine and TIG welder!

This was my last little project on the run up to christmas!

Following acid dipping of the bare cylinder block, it is rebored honed and decked, in one machine to keep tolerances as good as they can be.

Its then treated to a coat of tough polyurethane paint and then fitted with new core plugs





following crank polishing and dynamic balancing, its dummy built, piston to head clearances checked, pistons weight matched, rods weighed and balanced end to end, then main bearings plastigauge checked and crank installed, obviously after brushing out ALL oil galleries following removal of every item from the bare cylinder block so no dirt traps remain.



then I swap onto dummy building the supercharger setup on an old spare block and head

milling off chopped down stock inlet manifold





Eaton M90 supercharger from Jaguar 4.0 XJR6



chargecooler from XJR too



milling off jag inlet manifold



milling out alloy block to couple cooler to inlet manifold



blending complete on rear of flange block to form inlet trumpets



inlet clamped in ready for the TIG



mounting flange milled out for hanging top of charger from inlet manifold flange studs



skimming off welded up inlet



fabrication complete and glass bead blasted ready to weld to charge cooler




retropower

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Sunday 22nd December 2013
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chargecooler welded to inlet assembly



the complete assembly (including bottom fabricated bracket, tensioner bracket etc etc) all fitted to dummy engine.....next stop, fit to final engine, once I've built the head up and fitted it to the block!


northandy

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Sunday 22nd December 2013
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Brilliant so far, looking forward to more updates.

Dinoboy

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Monday 23rd December 2013
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Wow, brilliant work.

fttm

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Monday 23rd December 2013
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oh yes this is looking good . how about some pics/details on the white manta 400 or the orange Mk2 ?

Huntsman

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Monday 23rd December 2013
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Do you mind if I ask, what's the finished cost likely to be?

retropower

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Monday 23rd December 2013
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fttm said:
oh yes this is looking good . how about some pics/details on the white manta 400 or the orange Mk2 ?
Can post some stuff on these soon.

The mk2 is being built with vauxhall xe power too, and the manta is completely rebuilt, the floorpan completely refabricated to take nissan skyline rear iRS setup and skyline engine and gearbox.........

retropower

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Monday 23rd December 2013
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Huntsman said:
Do you mind if I ask, what's the finished cost likely to be?
A few variables still to go on this one, but somewhere in the region of £30k to £35k

Huntsman

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Monday 23rd December 2013
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retropower said:
Huntsman said:
Do you mind if I ask, what's the finished cost likely to be?
A few variables still to go on this one, but somewhere in the region of £30k to £35k
That strikes me as good value. Clearly your in house ability makes a difference. Love the flocking!


retropower

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Monday 23rd December 2013
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Our hourly rate is pretty low by industry standards (£25/hr + vat) which helps, though I think we may need to review this next year, following our latest expansion our overheads are getting pretty heavy! (7500 sq ft isn't cheap!)

Myself and my brother take very little out of the business currently, money goes back into expansion and widening capacity. Next year's shopping list starts with engine dyno and updated paint booth...........

Simon BB

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Monday 23rd December 2013
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Fantastic thread, thank you for sharing it, brilliant work.

As a youngster my friends were always split between liking Fords and Vauxhall/Opels. I was always in the GM camp, from my first car ( a Chevette) I always lusted after a Manta. The closest I got was as a student owning a 2.0/SR Ascona Berlinetta, in tangerine, the same as you've painted this car.

Big nostalgia trip smile

GTRene

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Monday 23rd December 2013
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great pictures and fantastic work.