Vulgar Aston Martin question
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Dr Jekyll

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Saturday 23rd August 2014
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As I recall new Astons in the 60s were the preserve of the very well off, then in the 70s they went upmarket to the downright rich, then since Ford took over they've moved down to the merely well off or even just comfortably off.

Is my recollection right? And how upmarket were they back on the 50s or even pre war?

POORCARDEALER

8,663 posts

270 months

Sunday 24th August 2014
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Not exactly.

In the late 70 early 80s they were quite low value, a friend of mine had a V8 and a Db6, neither of which was more than £5 or 6 grand.

They were much less mainstream than now for sure.

SpeckledJim

33,901 posts

282 months

Sunday 24th August 2014
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All the old mega-money brands have moved downmarket, and the upper quartile of society has got much richer.

A rolls-Royce used to cost more than a nice country house.

Harry Flashman

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271 months

Sunday 24th August 2014
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POORCARDEALER said:
Not exactly.

In the late 70 early 80s they were quite low value, a friend of mine had a V8 and a Db6, neither of which was more than £5 or 6 grand.

They were much less mainstream than now for sure.
Yep. My old man sold his V8 Vantage in the mid 80's for not very much. Next door bought his DB6 (which he still owns along with a mint 512 BBi also bought cheaply) for 18k.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

LaurasOtherHalf

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225 months

Sunday 24th August 2014
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POORCARDEALER said:
Not exactly.

In the late 70 early 80s they were quite low value, a friend of mine had a V8 and a Db6, neither of which was more than £5 or 6 grand.

They were much less mainstream than now for sure.
What did 5 or 6 grand get you in the late 70's?

Dr Jekyll

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Sunday 24th August 2014
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
POORCARDEALER said:
Not exactly.

In the late 70 early 80s they were quite low value, a friend of mine had a V8 and a Db6, neither of which was more than £5 or 6 grand.

They were much less mainstream than now for sure.
What did 5 or 6 grand get you in the late 70's?
Going by overall inflation, what 25 or 30 grand would get you now.

Much more than that in terms of property though.

To rephrase the original question.

Nowadays people on good salaries can aspire to a new Aston. In the eighties you generally needed to be an owner or partner of a very lucrative business to get a new one. They were certainly far above Porsche 911 levels, though I appreciate Porsches have gone upmarket since.

Who could aspire to an Aston in the DB4 days?

Willhire89

1,461 posts

234 months

Sunday 24th August 2014
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In 1975 my father bought a DB4 out of Exchange and Mart from a dealer in Lincoln for £900 - he used it as his DD for the next few years until he got a Mk1 Cavalier as a company car...

The same year my mother bought a Riley RMB for £500 to replace her Hillman Minx which was dying

lowdrag

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242 months

Sunday 24th August 2014
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Speckled Jim had it right. In 1979 I bought my 5 bedroom detached for £31,000. It is now I guess around £500,000. Now look at the adverts here; a DB4 for the price of the semi I sold and a DB4 Zagato was less than my house! But seriously, who would ever have thought a car was a better investment than a house 35 years ago?


POORCARDEALER

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Sunday 24th August 2014
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lowdrag said:
Speckled Jim had it right. In 1979 I bought my 5 bedroom detached for £31,000. It is now I guess around £500,000. Now look at the adverts here; a DB4 for the price of the semi I sold and a DB4 Zagato was less than my house! But seriously, who would ever have thought a car was a better investment than a house 35 years ago?

OMG...Db5 at £8500, thats £450K today, so done 400% better than property!



POORCARDEALER

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270 months

Sunday 24th August 2014
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[quote=Willhire89]In 1975 my father bought a DB4 out of Exchange and Mart from a dealer in Lincoln for £900 - he used it as his DD for the next few years until he got a Mk1 Cavalier as a company car...


£900 !!!

Same with E types back then.

mgtony

4,209 posts

219 months

Sunday 24th August 2014
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All the MGB prices in those ads seem to be near enough the same as todays prices.

Woodford Motor Co is still there albeit a Toyota dealership. smile

DonkeyApple

69,591 posts

198 months

Sunday 24th August 2014
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Dr Jekyll said:
As I recall new Astons in the 60s were the preserve of the very well off, then in the 70s they went upmarket to the downright rich, then since Ford took over they've moved down to the merely well off or even just comfortably off.

Is my recollection right? And how upmarket were they back on the 50s or even pre war?
Or, look at it another way: over the period you have described, debt went from being a social stigma/anathema to an essential lifestyle tool for the purveyor of the 'gay disco' lifestyle.

Salary items repackaged for the wage earner.

anonymous-user

83 months

Sunday 24th August 2014
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Test drove one today - a Rapide - and if you think 172k (the rrp of that one's spec) is down market and aimed at the comfortably well off rather than the rich then I need to work harder. That is one expensive car!

RichB

56,213 posts

313 months

Sunday 24th August 2014
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DrJekyl means at the time not who bought a DB4 or 5 (early 1960s cars) in the 70s or 80s.

People who bought DB2s and 2/4s in the 1950s were usually very well off.

Willhire89

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234 months

Sunday 24th August 2014
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POORCARDEALER said:
Willhire89 said:
In 1975 my father bought a DB4 out of Exchange and Mart from a dealer in Lincoln for £900 - he used it as his DD for the next few years until he got a Mk1 Cavalier as a company car...


£900 !!!

Same with E types back then.
Not a bad deal - dealer wanted £950 and it was agreed at £900 cash!

Family relief when sorted because he had been looking for one for absolutely ages and had looked at quite a few - it was however not really a patch on the 3.8 Mk2 it replaced. I never got to drive it and after the Cavalier turned up he did a straight swap for a 1930 1 1/2 International which Campbell drove at Brooklands which he still has...

DonkeyApple

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198 months

Sunday 24th August 2014
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drmark said:
Test drove one today - a Rapide - and if you think 172k (the rrp of that one's spec) is down market and aimed at the comfortably well off rather than the rich then I need to work harder. That is one expensive car!
Ah, but just 36 small payments and it's all yours. The near £200k tag is irrelevant. wink

Dr Jekyll

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Monday 25th August 2014
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drmark said:
Test drove one today - a Rapide - and if you think 172k (the rrp of that one's spec) is down market and aimed at the comfortably well off rather than the rich then I need to work harder. That is one expensive car!
I was thinking of the Vantage and to a lesser extent the DB9.

Roy C

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313 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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New Aston Martins have always been expensive, right from the early Lionel Martin cars, through the Bertelli years and the post-War DB's.



Edited by Roy C on Monday 25th August 08:03

Dr Jekyll

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Monday 25th August 2014
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In terms of general price inflation (not house prices or wages) £475 in 1932 was equivalent to only about £30K now. How much was a Rolls in 1932?

SpeckledJim

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282 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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Dr Jekyll said:
In terms of general price inflation (not house prices or wages) £475 in 1932 was equivalent to only about £30K now. How much was a Rolls in 1932?
I don't know, but I would't be surprised if it was double or triple the price of an Aston Martin.