Road tax required? New owner
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Hi
Apologies if this has been asked many times before.
We purchased a 1972 camper on the 20th March. The previous owner left the tax disc in and said although it is free road tax he would leave it in the window anyway. It expires at the end of May. However I recently read somewhere that you have to apply for a new tax disc in your name (or at least i think I did). Because of this we have just tried to tax it online however it says the tax ran out in March and that DVLA may be in touch with us because of the untaxed period!? The disc clearly says it is taxed until 31.5.15.
I know I should just ring DVLA on Monday and find out then, but the wife is giving me earache because apparently I'm a "Classic car expert" and "Should know these things" (I once owned a Triumph Spitfire twenty five years ago...).
We have managed to tax it online from the beginning of this month. So in theory we missed from the 20th March until the end of March.
Basically my question is am I likely to receive a fine and more earache off the wife, or should I just go to the pub and forget about this?
Yours confused, Dico.
Apologies if this has been asked many times before.
We purchased a 1972 camper on the 20th March. The previous owner left the tax disc in and said although it is free road tax he would leave it in the window anyway. It expires at the end of May. However I recently read somewhere that you have to apply for a new tax disc in your name (or at least i think I did). Because of this we have just tried to tax it online however it says the tax ran out in March and that DVLA may be in touch with us because of the untaxed period!? The disc clearly says it is taxed until 31.5.15.
I know I should just ring DVLA on Monday and find out then, but the wife is giving me earache because apparently I'm a "Classic car expert" and "Should know these things" (I once owned a Triumph Spitfire twenty five years ago...).
We have managed to tax it online from the beginning of this month. So in theory we missed from the 20th March until the end of March.
Basically my question is am I likely to receive a fine and more earache off the wife, or should I just go to the pub and forget about this?
Yours confused, Dico.
"Taxing" a classic after change of ownership is the same procedure as any other car,only money is not involved.
The previous owner was responsible to send DVLA the V5 filled in with your details and the date of the transfer.The "Tax" shown on the screen was then invalid.You should have "retaxed" it immediately (from 1st March)using the ref` number on the green slip that the previous owner gave you. You should have received a V5 in your name.
As said above blame the previous owner for everything.I don't think DVLA are going to chase you for "unpaid free tax".
The important thing is to have a V5 in your name and the vehicle showing up at DVLA as "Taxed" (And MOT).
The previous owner was responsible to send DVLA the V5 filled in with your details and the date of the transfer.The "Tax" shown on the screen was then invalid.You should have "retaxed" it immediately (from 1st March)using the ref` number on the green slip that the previous owner gave you. You should have received a V5 in your name.
As said above blame the previous owner for everything.I don't think DVLA are going to chase you for "unpaid free tax".
The important thing is to have a V5 in your name and the vehicle showing up at DVLA as "Taxed" (And MOT).
Where have you been Dico? The new rules came into force Oct 1st last year when paper tax discs where abolished.There was wide spread publicity and numerous discussions on PH and every other car forum.
Nothing really has changed,every car on the road has to be taxed,insured (and an MOT if nec`)but we are doing away with the need of bits of paper.
I think the best way to understand the tax bit is, its the registered keeper`s tax and not the car`s.When someone sells a car they keep the tax and get a refund of any remaining.The new keeper has to start again and apply for his tax of the car.
The big DVLA fiddle is they get paid twice during the month a car changes ownership.The new owner has to pay from the start of the month and the previous owner gets a refund from the end of the month onwards.
Nothing really has changed,every car on the road has to be taxed,insured (and an MOT if nec`)but we are doing away with the need of bits of paper.
I think the best way to understand the tax bit is, its the registered keeper`s tax and not the car`s.When someone sells a car they keep the tax and get a refund of any remaining.The new keeper has to start again and apply for his tax of the car.
The big DVLA fiddle is they get paid twice during the month a car changes ownership.The new owner has to pay from the start of the month and the previous owner gets a refund from the end of the month onwards.
Old Merc said:
Where have you been Dico?
I know. Quite embarrassing really.The camper was registered with us from the 20th March so we can't put the blame on the previous owner really. Don't really think an £80 fine is fare just because we didn't sorn/tax it for 11 days. Especially as it's 'free' anyhow. I'm sure all will be fine. Will let you know if not. Cheers.
I'm only aware of the changes to the tax requirements because of forums etc.
I don't recall seeing anything from the DVLA as such and most non-enthusiasts I know had absolutely no idea of the changes.
The DVLA have also recently amended the rules on retaining/changing personal number plates.
A friend printed out the retention form from the DVLA website and sent it off the next day only to have it returned with a note telling him that the rules had changed.
It wouldn't have taken much for them to post that advice on the website prior to the changes.
Having said all of that, a lot of the changes they're implementing will eventually make things easier in the future.
I don't recall seeing anything from the DVLA as such and most non-enthusiasts I know had absolutely no idea of the changes.
The DVLA have also recently amended the rules on retaining/changing personal number plates.
A friend printed out the retention form from the DVLA website and sent it off the next day only to have it returned with a note telling him that the rules had changed.
It wouldn't have taken much for them to post that advice on the website prior to the changes.
Having said all of that, a lot of the changes they're implementing will eventually make things easier in the future.
Edited by mph on Sunday 12th April 11:45
One doesnt pay much attention until it applies to you in real life. DVLA do nicely out of it. I remember unscrupulous people having a Free Month between their tax running out and getting a new disc from the Post Office! Every year.
I'm collecting a new old car this weekend. Will I be able to tax it online before it changes hands on the DVLA database?
I'm collecting a new old car this weekend. Will I be able to tax it online before it changes hands on the DVLA database?
PATTERNPART said:
I'm collecting a new old car this weekend. Will I be able to tax it online before it changes hands on the DVLA database?
Yes, use the ref` number on the green slip that the seller gives you. The car will have to be insured and MOT of course. The important bit is to make sure YOUR details are in the change of keeper section on the V5 and the seller sends the V5 to DVLA.Edited by Old Merc on Monday 13th April 15:08
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