Reading the mileage on a vintage odometer?
Reading the mileage on a vintage odometer?
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RichB

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Friday 4th December 2015
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As it says really, how should you read the mileage on this odometer (and yes I realise it is almost certainly not correct) wink


Roy C

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Friday 4th December 2015
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RichB said:
As it says really, how should you read the mileage on this odometer (and yes I realise it is almost certainly not correct) wink

Just a guess: 38.2 miles (trip) & 3040.7 miles (odometer).

Edited to add: Here's another one.


Edited by Roy C on Friday 4th December 20:47

davepen

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299 months

Friday 4th December 2015
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Roy C said:
Just a guess: 38.2 miles (trip) & 3040.7 miles (odometer).
Yes, mine is slightly earlier, in nickel and has a reset lever on the top for the trip.

So yes it rolls over every 10,000 miles, which could make any MOT interesting.
Although most of the service/grease points need attention every 1000, 2000 and 3000miles

RichB

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Friday 4th December 2015
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Ah right thanks chaps, I hadn't realised it had a trip meter. I haven't found the reset button so I guess that's the next thing to look for. biggrin

austin

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232 months

Monday 7th December 2015
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davepen said:
Roy C said:
Just a guess: 38.2 miles (trip) & 3040.7 miles (odometer).
Yes, mine is slightly earlier, in nickel and has a reset lever on the top for the trip.

So yes it rolls over every 10,000 miles, which could make any MOT interesting.
Although most of the service/grease points need attention every 1000, 2000 and 3000miles
Mine has a reset for the trip on the top, my guess is that this isn't the right dial for that dash?

If you feel underneath or the back there should be some way of resetting the odometer.

MOT irrelevant as it's pre 1960. Even when the MOT was required mine never worked properly so it had the same mileage for about 12 years!

LordBretSinclair

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206 months

Monday 7th December 2015
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austin said:
......... my guess is that this isn't the right dial for that dash?
All the dials look different, The Lucas one looks very 50s/60s smile


Slidingpillar

761 posts

165 months

Monday 7th December 2015
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A Cooper Stewart speedo circa 1930


Other than showing 1 mph stationary, it works fine and more accurate than quite a few modern ones as I recalibrated it as part of getting it working again.

Yes, the rev counter is a bit modern, but I didn't have much of a choice, I'm deaf and vintage rev counters are not widely available. This one is meant for a light aircraft.

Edited by Slidingpillar on Monday 7th December 14:17

anonymous-user

83 months

Monday 7th December 2015
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Slidingpillar said:
I didn't have much of a choice, I'm deaf and vintage rev counters are not widely available
Are modern ones audible then?

essayer

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223 months

Monday 7th December 2015
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V6Pushfit said:
Are modern ones audible then?
In most cars they are linked to a sound generator of some sort.

RichB

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Monday 7th December 2015
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LordBretSinclair said:
austin said:
......... my guess is that this isn't the right dial for that dash?
All the dials look different, The Lucas one looks very 50s/60s smile
Indeed, I've not shown it in the photo but the Speedo, clock and rev counter look original - or at least they are period Smith MA instruments. The ammeter is far too modern and the oil pressure and fuel gauges are of indiscernible age. I have got the dash on my list of jobs so collecting a nice set of matching Smiths MA instruments is on my eBay search list!

p.s. I've never heard of audible rev-counters wobble

anonymous-user

83 months

Monday 7th December 2015
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essayer said:
V6Pushfit said:
Are modern ones audible then?
In most cars they are linked to a sound generator of some sort.
One that makes engine noises?

RichB

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Monday 7th December 2015
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biglaugh

Slidingpillar

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Monday 7th December 2015
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V6Pushfit said:
Slidingpillar said:
I didn't have much of a choice, I'm deaf and vintage rev counters are not widely available
Are modern ones audible then?
Don't know and don't care! As a rule, vintage rev counters are fed by a fitment to the engine and consequently, one needs both the dash unit, the drive gear and a cable. The engine on that car, a 1930 Morgan is magneto ignition, and the only electronic dash units one can get these days that can be wired into a magneto are aeroplane units. That one is American and even though they were told what it was for, the firm still supplied one that read half what the engine was doing. Had to be returned to the states, to be corrected.

Two cylinder engine magnetos for a British four stroke engine spark once every revolution but one spark is positive volts, the next, negative. I'd assume the firm has only sold a handful of magneto operated units and due to the fact they sell them with a divide the reading by two fitted and a bit of luck, had never encountered this problem before. Was all put right but with two extra lots of shipping to pay, I cannot imagine much profit was made.

RichB

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Monday 7th December 2015
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Slidingpillar said:
V6Pushfit said:
Slidingpillar said:
I didn't have much of a choice, I'm deaf and vintage rev counters are not widely available
Are modern ones audible then?
Don't know and don't care!...
I think you'll find it was a joke. wink

anonymous-user

83 months

Monday 7th December 2015
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Slidingpillar said:
Don't know and don't care! As a rule, vintage rev counters are fed by a fitment to the engine and consequently, one needs both the dash unit, the drive gear and a cable. The engine on that car, a 1930 Morgan is magneto ignition, and the only electronic dash units one can get these days that can be wired into a magneto are aeroplane units. That one is American and even though they were told what it was for, the firm still supplied one that read half what the engine was doing. Had to be returned to the states, to be corrected.

Two cylinder engine magnetos for a British four stroke engine spark once every revolution but one spark is positive volts, the next, negative. I'd assume the firm has only sold a handful of magneto operated units and due to the fact they sell them with a divide the reading by two fitted and bit of luck, had never encountered this problem before. Was all put right but with two extra lots of shipping to pay, I cannot imagine much profit was made.
If you get stuck again just ring Speedycables they can do whats needed or supply a 1930's unit to suit. Or just run one off the dynamo or alternator its more simple.

Slidingpillar

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165 months

Monday 7th December 2015
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RichB said:
I think you'll find it was a joke. wink
Not a problem, I just thought the tale might be interesting.

V6Pushfit said:
If you get stuck again just ring Speedycables they can do whats needed or supply a 1930's unit to suit. Or just run one off the dynamo or alternator its more simple.
Perhaps, and perhaps I'll win the lottery. The only way to get the needed bits would be to pay to get them made, the needed cable is easy. (Speedy cables made me a speedo cable, but I still had to supply one of the ends they used, only one was in their stock).

Dynamos produce DC, so I don't see how you'd ever use that as a rev counter. My electrical charging machine, which is an alternator (I did a conversion) though is disconnected from the engine every time one pushes the clutch to change gear, precisely the moment when one wants a rev counter to work with dog engaged gears and no syncromesh. Would be fun getting one to read true too, the alternator rotates at 0.75 engine revs.