Ordinary cars at sky high prices
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Spotted what looks like a nice condition early 1960's Ford consul classic coupe version .
Only 59,000 miles and original. Fitted with its 1500cc engine and not messed with.
Enquired and was advised its priced £20k. Not being well up on the classic car market this seems a very strong price to me? As I say the car is nice but
I was always under the impression that rarity does not always mean a strong price.
Only 59,000 miles and original. Fitted with its 1500cc engine and not messed with.
Enquired and was advised its priced £20k. Not being well up on the classic car market this seems a very strong price to me? As I say the car is nice but

I was always under the impression that rarity does not always mean a strong price.
crankedup said:
Spotted what looks like a nice condition early 1960's Ford consul classic coupe version .
Only 59,000 miles and original. Fitted with its 1500cc engine and not messed with.
Enquired and was advised its priced £20k. Not being well up on the classic car market this seems a very strong price to me? As I say the car is nice but
I was always under the impression that rarity does not always mean a strong price.
I've got a suspicion that a lot of this seemingly high price old car stock isn't shifting. Trade have been moving cars about, adding a bit, but not selling.Only 59,000 miles and original. Fitted with its 1500cc engine and not messed with.
Enquired and was advised its priced £20k. Not being well up on the classic car market this seems a very strong price to me? As I say the car is nice but

I was always under the impression that rarity does not always mean a strong price.
Huntsman said:
crankedup said:
Spotted what looks like a nice condition early 1960's Ford consul classic coupe version .
Only 59,000 miles and original. Fitted with its 1500cc engine and not messed with.
Enquired and was advised its priced £20k. Not being well up on the classic car market this seems a very strong price to me? As I say the car is nice but
I was always under the impression that rarity does not always mean a strong price.
I've got a suspicion that a lot of this seemingly high price old car stock isn't shifting. Trade have been moving cars about, adding a bit, but not selling.Only 59,000 miles and original. Fitted with its 1500cc engine and not messed with.
Enquired and was advised its priced £20k. Not being well up on the classic car market this seems a very strong price to me? As I say the car is nice but

I was always under the impression that rarity does not always mean a strong price.
Will prices fall to a sensible level - illinois dollar question, no pun intended.
crankedup said:
Spotted what looks like a nice condition early 1960's Ford consul classic coupe version .
Only 59,000 miles and original. Fitted with its 1500cc engine and not messed with.
Enquired and was advised its priced £20k. Not being well up on the classic car market this seems a very strong price to me? As I say the car is nice but
I was always under the impression that rarity does not always mean a strong price.
One of these....?Only 59,000 miles and original. Fitted with its 1500cc engine and not messed with.
Enquired and was advised its priced £20k. Not being well up on the classic car market this seems a very strong price to me? As I say the car is nice but

I was always under the impression that rarity does not always mean a strong price.

If so, one went for more than that at an auction recently (and it had been messed around with a bit, so hardly what I'd call an original spec restored or original car)
There's really not many of these left, but as always, they are only worth what someone is prepared to pay. The trouble is with so few left, finding some of the unique to these parts can be an issue (aside from the usual issue of rust/rot) although some basic parts from sibling Fords can be used.
Phil Dicky said:
It might be mint but its by no means original.'84 ones shouldnt have had colour coded bumpers, wheel arches, or grille. Also it should be black along the lower halves of the doors. Rear and front valences should also have been black.
It was for sale in a Honda dealers back in Jan for £16,000.
Two years ago it was for sale @ £7,995
http://www.newoldcar.co.uk/index.php/66-featured-c...
aeropilot said:
One of these....?

If so, one went for more than that at an auction recently (and it had been messed around with a bit, so hardly what I'd call an original spec restored or original car)
There's really not many of these left, but as always, they are only worth what someone is prepared to pay. The trouble is with so few left, finding some of the unique to these parts can be an issue (aside from the usual issue of rust/rot) although some basic parts from sibling Fords can be used.
My first car was one of these back in the mid-seventies. To give some perspective on current values of a nice one now, they were mostly all completely rotten back then. That white one pictured is a beauty.
If so, one went for more than that at an auction recently (and it had been messed around with a bit, so hardly what I'd call an original spec restored or original car)
There's really not many of these left, but as always, they are only worth what someone is prepared to pay. The trouble is with so few left, finding some of the unique to these parts can be an issue (aside from the usual issue of rust/rot) although some basic parts from sibling Fords can be used.
daemon said:
Phil Dicky said:
It might be mint but its by no means original.'84 ones shouldnt have had colour coded bumpers, wheel arches, or grille. Also it should be black along the lower halves of the doors. Rear and front valences should also have been black.
It was for sale in a Honda dealers back in Jan for £16,000.
Two years ago it was for sale @ £7,995
http://www.newoldcar.co.uk/index.php/66-featured-c...
Mot history, 180 miles in nearly 10 years, says to me that no-one actually bought it.
Its not just ordinary cars, I've been watching chinese eye RR and Bentley's for ages, I'm not sure they are selling yet seem to be gathering value....
Edited by Huntsman on Monday 10th April 15:33
aeropilot said:
crankedup said:
Spotted what looks like a nice condition early 1960's Ford consul classic coupe version .
Only 59,000 miles and original. Fitted with its 1500cc engine and not messed with.
Enquired and was advised its priced £20k. Not being well up on the classic car market this seems a very strong price to me? As I say the car is nice but
I was always under the impression that rarity does not always mean a strong price.
One of these....?Only 59,000 miles and original. Fitted with its 1500cc engine and not messed with.
Enquired and was advised its priced £20k. Not being well up on the classic car market this seems a very strong price to me? As I say the car is nice but

I was always under the impression that rarity does not always mean a strong price.

If so, one went for more than that at an auction recently (and it had been messed around with a bit, so hardly what I'd call an original spec restored or original car)
There's really not many of these left, but as always, they are only worth what someone is prepared to pay. The trouble is with so few left, finding some of the unique to these parts can be an issue (aside from the usual issue of rust/rot) although some basic parts from sibling Fords can be used.
crankedup said:
aeropilot said:
crankedup said:
Spotted what looks like a nice condition early 1960's Ford consul classic coupe version .
Only 59,000 miles and original. Fitted with its 1500cc engine and not messed with.
Enquired and was advised its priced £20k. Not being well up on the classic car market this seems a very strong price to me? As I say the car is nice but
I was always under the impression that rarity does not always mean a strong price.
One of these....?Only 59,000 miles and original. Fitted with its 1500cc engine and not messed with.
Enquired and was advised its priced £20k. Not being well up on the classic car market this seems a very strong price to me? As I say the car is nice but

I was always under the impression that rarity does not always mean a strong price.

If so, one went for more than that at an auction recently (and it had been messed around with a bit, so hardly what I'd call an original spec restored or original car)
There's really not many of these left, but as always, they are only worth what someone is prepared to pay. The trouble is with so few left, finding some of the unique to these parts can be an issue (aside from the usual issue of rust/rot) although some basic parts from sibling Fords can be used.
aeropilot said:
One of these....?

If so, one went for more than that at an auction recently (and it had been messed around with a bit, so hardly what I'd call an original spec restored or original car)
There's really not many of these left, but as always, they are only worth what someone is prepared to pay. The trouble is with so few left, finding some of the unique to these parts can be an issue (aside from the usual issue of rust/rot) although some basic parts from sibling Fords can be used.
Very bad case of WANT! Unfortunately equalled with just as bad a case of unaffordable.... 
If so, one went for more than that at an auction recently (and it had been messed around with a bit, so hardly what I'd call an original spec restored or original car)
There's really not many of these left, but as always, they are only worth what someone is prepared to pay. The trouble is with so few left, finding some of the unique to these parts can be an issue (aside from the usual issue of rust/rot) although some basic parts from sibling Fords can be used.
there's one of those coupes on a ramp in the tyre place at the junction of shirvan road and the CN highway on tobago. it's not moved in all the time that i've been on island (and i first arrived in 1989). i mean, not moved at all. recommissioning will be a nightmare but i make a point of stopping every few weeks and trying to buy it. it looks like it's a 1962 which is the same age as me.
tropical climate should mean lots of rot but it's under cover and well ventilated so maybe not a total disaster. superficially, it looks very reasonable.
if i were in any way technically minded i'd get a pic or two but i'm not. will ask a friend.
paul
tropical climate should mean lots of rot but it's under cover and well ventilated so maybe not a total disaster. superficially, it looks very reasonable.
if i were in any way technically minded i'd get a pic or two but i'm not. will ask a friend.
paul
Edited by paulmakin on Tuesday 11th April 23:26
s m said:
bloomen said:
Modern prices bear no relation to much of anything other than what one speculator believes they might get out of a greater fool further down the line.
As always with this type of thing, the answer is buy one of the cheap ones instead....BeastieBoy73 said:
I've just returned from Techno Classica in Essen and the prices advertised for cars generally seemed high. One car that hit me as being high priced was a Jaguar XJS Convertible being offered for €48k.
XJS prices particularly for a convertible have gone through the roof in the last year or so. €48K wouldn't seem surprising for a late V12. Take a look at http://www.clarkesjaguar.co.uk/xjs-for-sale.html
Damn!
I really should stay away from that site especially now that the XK150 has moved on to someone who's likely to use it more than I have of late.
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