Is it worth restoring classic cars??
Is it worth restoring classic cars??
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funrover

Original Poster:

4 posts

106 months

Sunday 12th November 2017
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Hello everyone!

Pretty young PH member (16)


is it worth restoring classic cars with this new Petrol/Diesel ban looming? I'm a huge classic car nut!

I have a 1977 rolls royce silver shadow 1 sitting outside my house, and i've been toying with the idea of restoring it in a few years but with this new ban thingy will it be with doing??

i'm not looking at selling it i'm just thinking, will petrol still be available for the classic car hobbiest?.

cheers Henry.




Chemical Ali

951 posts

246 months

Sunday 12th November 2017
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Yes

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

155 months

Sunday 12th November 2017
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funrover said:
...with this new Petrol/Diesel ban looming?
And what new petrol/diesel ban is this?

funrover

Original Poster:

4 posts

106 months

Sunday 12th November 2017
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TooMany2cvs said:
And what new petrol/diesel ban is this?
This one.

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=...

Chemical Ali

951 posts

246 months

Sunday 12th November 2017
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I think you need to read the title of the article again.

To ban the sale of petrol and diesel cars, not the cars already in existence.

Inevitably old classics will become rarer and probably worth more as collectors items.

But this ban is in 2040. Can you be sure you will still even be alive then?

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

155 months

Sunday 12th November 2017
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funrover said:
TooMany2cvs said:
And what new petrol/diesel ban is this?
This one.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jul/25/b...
A three month old article about a government consultation on a potential ban on the sale of new petrol/diesel cars that might, perhaps, happen in a quarter of a century's time... after four or five more general elections?

InitialDave

15,072 posts

148 months

Monday 13th November 2017
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It'll be fine, petrol and diesel aren't going anywhere any time soon, and even if this 2040 ban happens, there's still going to be a lot of cars floating around needing fuel.

The Rolls sounds like a big first project though!

funrover

Original Poster:

4 posts

106 months

Monday 13th November 2017
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InitialDave said:
It'll be fine, petrol and diesel aren't going anywhere any time soon, and even if this 2040 ban happens, there's still going to be a lot of cars floating around needing fuel.

The Rolls sounds like a big first project though!
Ha she is a bit crusty around the usual places

bottom of the wings have rotted out

rear quarters are full of filler and rust

passenger side floor pan is rotten

electrics are dodgy

indicators don't work

interiors a mess / most of its missing

it has a mystery battery drain

rear suspension accumulators need bleeding

etc etc

but i won't be beaten!!

engine sounds lovely original 77k

it had a gearbox rebuild in 2003

lol

InitialDave

15,072 posts

148 months

Monday 13th November 2017
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Haha, rather you than me on that one!

MiggyA

193 posts

129 months

Monday 13th November 2017
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The idea of making a ban 23 years in advance is absurd and clearly an attempt to appear fashionably green without actually doing anything, anyway. So I'd not worry about it and crack on. If EV does catch on with the mainstream public then fuel probably will get less convenient to buy but that's easy mode compared to the poor steam train enthusiasts! They struggle to even get some track to run their engines but it doesn't put them off.

TwigtheWonderkid

48,963 posts

179 months

Monday 13th November 2017
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funrover said:
but i won't be beaten!!

Winners never quit, and quitters never win. But people who can't win and won't quit are idiots.

austinsmirk

5,597 posts

152 months

Monday 13th November 2017
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huge thread on something similar in readers rides.

the one he is trying to restore looks like its been kept in the sea, just to make sure its properly rusty before he started.

Renn Sport

2,761 posts

238 months

Monday 13th November 2017
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funrover said:
Ha she is a bit crusty around the usual places

bottom of the wings have rotted out

rear quarters are full of filler and rust

passenger side floor pan is rotten

electrics are dodgy

indicators don't work

interiors a mess / most of its missing

it has a mystery battery drain

rear suspension accumulators need bleeding

etc etc

but i won't be beaten!!

engine sounds lovely original 77k

it had a gearbox rebuild in 2003

lol
Don't be defeated and learn as much as you can. I am guessing at 16 owning a Roller means you may have had parental help in acquisition, recovery or storage. Unless your Saturday job paid for it. Either way BRAVO!

Without sounding condescending, try to learn as many of the resto skills you can to make your classic car ownership as cost effective as possible. I would have possibly chosen a different classic to cut my teeth on. Maybe a VW Bug, Mini, Triumph or MG... but that's not to say you cant get your roller in tip top condition.

Maybe get a 2nd car to run about in while you tackle the jobs on the Roller.


Go for it!



Yertis

19,707 posts

295 months

Monday 13th November 2017
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Winners never quit, and quitters never win. But people who can't win and won't quit are idiots.
frown

rev-erend

21,619 posts

313 months

Monday 13th November 2017
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Guess you have better learn to weld.

Renn Sport

2,761 posts

238 months

Monday 13th November 2017
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Yertis said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Winners never quit, and quitters never win. But people who can't win and won't quit are idiots.
frown
That's what I was thinking... what a cock.

Wacky Racer

41,247 posts

276 months

Monday 13th November 2017
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Sell it for scrap and have a rethink.

Granted, it would be a very interesting project but it WILL cost you a fortune and be worth bugger all when it's done.

Yes, it's worth restoring classic cars, but not this heap of rust.

The Surveyor

7,624 posts

266 months

Monday 13th November 2017
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Renn Sport said:
Yertis said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Winners never quit, and quitters never win. But people who can't win and won't quit are idiots.
frown
That's what I was thinking... what a cock.
I thought the same, as an answer to the question 'is it worth restoring classic cars' then its pretty darn rude. As an answer to 'is it worth restoring my Rolls Royce' then it may be brutally honest.

It sounds like there is an awful lot of work to do on the Rolls and I wish the OP all the luck in the world in what will be a real learning experience, but if the measure of 'worth' is financial then the car sounds too far gone. A whole replacement interior will cost more than the cars worth for example, add in the metal work, re-spray and the mechanicals £££££

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

155 months

Monday 13th November 2017
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Renn Sport said:
Yertis said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Winners never quit, and quitters never win. But people who can't win and won't quit are idiots.
frown
That's what I was thinking... what a cock.
He's right, though.

Somebody who wants to achieve something won't just jack it in easily.
Somebody who jacks things in easily won't achieve anything.
Somebody who can't achieve what they want, but won't give up, is an idiot.

LarJammer

2,423 posts

239 months

Monday 13th November 2017
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How about some inspiration?

https://youtu.be/legY7iNdDWU