Silverstone Auction Nov 11th 2017

[andymc]

It would appear the price rise of 80's to 90's hot hatches is still on the rise

https://www.silverstoneauctions.com/nec-classic-mo...


some highlights:
rs500 £112k
green focus RS with 800 miles £43k
tiny miles escort cosworth 90k

etc
etc


Andy

[andymc]

Major Mechanical Modifications Exhaust: Techo 2 tubular manifold Supersprint SS. Engine: Carbon Dynamics airbox. Bespoke Allard Turbo Sports front-mounted intercooler. Bespoke Allard Turbo Sports uprated aluminium radiator. Roller-bearing T38 Turbo. Auto Integrale fast-road cams. Adjustable camshaft pulleys. 630cc Fuel Injectors and uprated fuel pump. Rebored cylinders to 84.6mm. 12mm Head Bolts with uprated head gasket.

Forged pistons and steel conrods. Uprated oil pump and baffled sump. Uprated Magnecor leads. Uprated engine wiring loom. All hoses replaced with silicone. Custom remap by FC Performance and boost pressure increased to 1.45bar. Drivetrain: Refurbished front and rear differentials and front uprated to 300nm. Steel lightweight flywheel. Fast-road clutch with Alcon plate. Uprated 3rd gear strengthening plate. Suspension: BC Coilover suspension kit with adjustable top mounts All bushes replaced with Polyurethane. Uprated drop link kit. Rear diff cradle and uprated rear lateral suspension bars. OMP rear lower suspension brace. Brakes: Grooved front and rear discs.

Ferodo DS brake pads. Goodridge SS brake lines. Bodywork: HDI Headlamp Kit. Front chassis strengthening plates. The car underwent the majority of the above work in 2010/11. While the work was carried out all mechanical and electrical components, electrical sensors, bolts, washers etc. were refurbished, or replaced with OEM parts or uprated items. Have complete history for the car prior to this with specialists, MOTs, and invoices for parts etc. Oil services carried out by self each year with coolant and brake fluid changed every 2 years - invoices for this.

Most recent work has included replacement fuel pump, cam and auxiliary belts, full service. This was in Oct 2016 at 98,000kms. Last oil service was May 2017 by self.” A Toad Cat 1 immobiliser is fitted and the car will have a new MOT at the time of the sale.

[andymc]

must be a new record for a RS500 £112.5K with 8000 miles on

[LarJammer]

I thought the Porsche 930LE was cheap at 82k (one of only 50 made) even if it was a bit frilly in places.

[soad]

Auction fees on top too? Buyers market, I suppose.

[sim16v]

A lot of very clean, low mileage, mundane Fords did some serious money!

[chunder27]

Droop not RS2000 for 97k Jesus Christ

Some lovelt 911's on there for 30 or less, a lovely 944 S2.

But some of the overpriced Ford crap on there is ridiculous.

Interesting auction though.

[CRA1G]

What's strange is the Z3M Coupe sold for £42,750 but that car has been for sale and well advertised retail at a well known specialist for quite a while for £44,000....?

Not complaining though....

[MikeyC]

soad said:

Auction fees on top too? Buyers market, I suppose.

I think the Sold price includes Buyer fee (12.5%)
so Porsche 911 Turbo was £82,125 / 1.125 = £73000 hammer price

guide then says "Buyer's premium is subject to VAT" so not quite sure how that works ?

[lukeharding]

MikeyC said:

I think the Sold price includes Buyer fee (12.5%)
so Porsche 911 Turbo was £82,125 / 1.125 = £73000 hammer price

guide then says "Buyer's premium is subject to VAT" so not quite sure how that works ?

You have to pay VAT on the 12.5% buyers premium not on the hammer price. So if you bought the car for £10k you'd have the buyers premium of £1250 plus the VAT on that at 20% which is £250. Your total price would be £11500.

[PAUL500]

andymc said:

must be a new record for a RS500 £112.5K with 8000 miles on

Yep, until the white unregistered one with only test miles on it ever comes up for sale.

A known Chap has both a Moonstone and white with less miles, and also a 3dr with I think around 400 miles from new.

I could have bought a one owner example in white with less miles than the auction one back in 2005 for £16k! I hesistated for a few days and it was gone.....

Did manage to buy number 499 after that, which then had to go post divorce.

The hunt for number 500 stil goes on.

[chunder27]

Lol, a guy living in different world to the rest of us I fear!!

[a8hex]

I really fancied the XK140DHC, the estimates were much lower than I'd have expected and if I'd had more notice I might well have bid for it. The price it achieved was much more inline with what I'd have expected though and there's no way SWMBO would have been happy if I'd tried chase the bidding up there.

[zeb]

chunder27 said:

Droop not RS2000 for 97k Jesus Christ

Some lovelt 911's on there for 30 or less, a lovely 944 S2.

But some of the overpriced Ford crap on there is ridiculous.

Interesting auction though.

tis true

97k....good god almighty. Made the Mk1 XR2 look like a steal.......

[chunder27]

I have always wondered why mass prodiuced stuf like Ford, MG and Jaguar fetches such silly prices

You look at that auction and anything E Type is silly money, and all those crazy Fords, even RS Turbo's! Fair enough an RS500 you can see it, hardly any made, most of them raced and now wrecked, nearly all modded.

But 100 grand for a Sierra!! 40 odd for a n Escort!!

Just shows that you have to be a bit blinded to buy stuff at auctions at times!!

[The Surveyor]

chunder27 said:

.......

Just shows that you have to be a bit blinded to buy stuff at auctions at times!!

It shows that there is still plenty of money still sloshing about in the collector car markets, with people looking for the next big thing.

[Horsetan]

chunder27 said:

Lol, a guy living in different world to the rest of us I fear!!

If you're in that sort of income bracket, money hardly seems to matter.

[aeropilot]

zeb said:

chunder27 said:

Droop not RS2000 for 97k Jesus Christ

Some lovelt 911's on there for 30 or less, a lovely 944 S2.

But some of the overpriced Ford crap on there is ridiculous.

Interesting auction though.

tis true

97k....good god almighty. Made the Mk1 XR2 look like a steal.......

Back in the early eighties, I remember a story going around the RSOC/AVOOC that someone knew of a couple of hundred miles only Mk2 RS2000 that had been tucked away by its original owner as an investment......but it was just a story, and back in 1983/4, no one did things like this, but, it makes me wonder if it was true and this is that car..........?

[lucido grigio]

chunder27 said:

Lol, a guy living in different world to the rest of us I fear!!

If he is the Paul that I think he is ,then he is THE RS500 expert.

He had a RS500 race car on show at the NEC too ,in correct period livery.

[Legacywr]

LarJammer said:

I thought the Porsche 930LE was cheap at 82k (one of only 50 made) even if it was a bit frilly in places.

They're not very popular, they certainly make less than an equivilant, standard 930.
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