New rules question

[hotrat]

I think I'm correct in saying that on the 20th May this year cars from 1976 or earlier will no longer require a MOT. I'm hoping to get my car back on the road by about July, after a long restoration. It's been off the road since the 80's. How do i go about TAX and MOT when I bring it back on the road. I'v got it sorn'd at the moment.

[interloper]

So long as you have the V5 and it's insured, you should be able to apply for historic VED (road tax) and that's it. Personally I would chuck it through an MOT for piece of mind.

[TooMany2cvs]

interloper said:

So long as you have the V5 and it's insured, you should be able to apply for historic VED (road tax) and that's it. Personally I would chuck it through an MOT for piece of mind.

Not quite so simple. The OP's going to need to declare it as meeting the VHI requirements, rather than it simply being on age. It's not quite finalised as yet, but I think he'll be able to do that at the PO.

[droopsnoot]

interloper said:

Personally I would chuck it through an MOT for piece of mind.

I'd agree - if it's just come through a long restoration, you'd want to know everything is OK prior to putting it on the road.

But the technicalities seem correct as far as we know at the moment - get it changed to historic taxation class, then part of the renewal will ask the OP to declare that it meets the criteria.

[hotrat]

Thanks Gents, I'll insure It then pop down the post office, and see what they say.

[TooMany2cvs]

hotrat said:

Thanks Gents, I'll insure It then pop down the post office, and see what they say.

Bear in mind none of this even becomes an issue until late May.

[hotrat]

So can I apply for historic tax before before the car is finished.

[tortop45]

Yes as long as it was manufactured in 76.just send the log book of to dvla.But as its not been on the road for so long they might wan.t to inspect it.. I no that they are inspecting 60.s car which have been of the road for a long time...from may the 20th this year you won.t need a MOT as long as its not modified. .

Edited by tortop45 on Saturday 27th January 21:34

[nurburgring1]

Where do they inspect these days. I once took a car to Preston as it was my nearest office, but it's long gone now.

[droopsnoot]

I thought it currently needed a valid MOT to change taxation status?



I do know people who say they have managed to do so without an MOT, though, even though the car required one.

[aeropilot]

nurburgring1 said:

Where do they inspect these days. I once took a car to Preston as it was my nearest office, but it's long gone now.

Contracted out now, who come out to inspect car. The firm that the DVLA uses is called SGS.

[TooMany2cvs]

droopsnoot said:

I thought it currently needed a valid MOT to change taxation status?



I do know people who say they have managed to do so without an MOT, though, even though the car required one.

"or evidence if your vehicle's exempt from an MOT"

[nurburgring1]

aeropilot said:

Contracted out now, who come out to inspect car. The firm that the DVLA uses is called SGS.

Interesting, thanks for that.

[droopsnoot]

TooMany2cvs said:

"or evidence if your vehicle's exempt from an MOT"

True, I presumed that it wasn't currently exempt from MOT because of the way the original post was worded. So until May, it would still require one.

[vpr]

Would this be the same for a car that I imported from the States (a 1972)??

Needs UK registering and taxing

[TooMany2cvs]

vpr said:

Would this be the same for a car that I imported from the States (a 1972)??

Needs UK registering and taxing

Come May, if it meets the originality test... probably.

Would an MOT be an issue...?

[aeropilot]

TooMany2cvs said:

vpr said:

Would this be the same for a car that I imported from the States (a 1972)??

Needs UK registering and taxing

Come May, if it meets the originality test... probably.

Would an MOT be an issue...?

When applying for registration, DVLA will appoint SGS to inspect the car, to verify identity, and that it's in a road worthy condition, and if its stock condition, and a runner, and all the NOVA paperwork is in order etc.,etc. then it should be OK.
Of course, if the reg is applied for before May, then it will need a MOT?

[mgtony]

If the Mot exemption is being introduced to run along side the 40 year VED rules, why is it happening in May instead of April?
On line regarding the MOT, they keep using the phrase 'As soon as the car hits 40 years old', but I understand it will be from the following April, the same as the VED and not the date of registration?

[droopsnoot]

mgtony said:

If the Mot exemption is being introduced to run along side the 40 year VED rules, why is it happening in May instead of April?

My understanding (which has already been demonstrated as incomplete) is that the rolling MOT exemption itself (though not the age at which it rolls) is based on an EU directive, and the closing date for implementing it is May 20th or thereabouts.

mgtony said:

On line regarding the MOT, they keep using the phrase 'As soon as the car hits 40 years old', but I understand it will be from the following April, the same as the VED and not the date of registration?

Yes, it only jumps forward on April 1st, you're correct. And it's also based on the year of manufacture, not the year of registration, another thing that confuses people. Although I believe that the two are linked after about 1976, because that was the point where the application for new registrations contained a confirmation that the car being registered was new.

[InitialDave]

I haven't yet seen an official thing about it, but my expectation was that the initial change for the MOT would kick on in May, and then after that it would work the same way the VED exemption does to roll over each year.