Require "On car" wheel balancing in NW.
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I've just become the owner of a 1936 Wolseley 12/48, on a run over the weekend that involved over 25+ miles of motorway driving, I NEED to get the wheels balanced urgently.
They will not go onto a normal wheel balancing m/c, as the is a bar across the centre of the wheel for the hub cap to fix to, so it can't mount onto the m/c shaft. The only way that they could be balanced is whilst still on the car.
I'm looking for somewhere in the Northwest (Lancashire) that has still got the means to do it this old fashioned way.
Anyone???
I've just become the owner of a 1936 Wolseley 12/48, on a run over the weekend that involved over 25+ miles of motorway driving, I NEED to get the wheels balanced urgently.
They will not go onto a normal wheel balancing m/c, as the is a bar across the centre of the wheel for the hub cap to fix to, so it can't mount onto the m/c shaft. The only way that they could be balanced is whilst still on the car.
I'm looking for somewhere in the Northwest (Lancashire) that has still got the means to do it this old fashioned way.
Anyone???
Gafferjim said:
I've just become the owner of a 1936 Wolseley 12/48, on a run over the weekend that involved over 25+ miles of motorway driving, I NEED to get the wheels balanced urgently.
Thinking about it, what sort of m'way speeds are you cruising at? I've never needed wheels balancing below about 75-80, which I'd be surprised if you were sitting at in your Wolseley.If it's bad below that, are you sure they're actually round?
TooMany2cvs said:
Thinking about it, what sort of m'way speeds are you cruising at? I've never needed wheels balancing below about 75-80, which I'd be surprised if you were sitting at in your Wolseley.
If it's bad below that, are you sure they're actually round?
A good point now you mention it. I put new tyres on a 1939 Daimler I had and they weren't balanced but then I only hit the heady heights of 55mph briefly.If it's bad below that, are you sure they're actually round?
TooMany2cvs said:
Thinking about it, what sort of m'way speeds are you cruising at? I've never needed wheels balancing below about 75-80, which I'd be surprised if you were sitting at in your Wolseley.
If it's bad below that, are you sure they're actually round?
Good point, but I could roughly balance them on the car, because they'll spin to have the same point at the lowest point, they're that far out. If it's bad below that, are you sure they're actually round?
That bubble balancer looks good, will look for one.
I don't know if it's still the case but Peugeots of just a few years ago didn't have centre holes in the wheels. I was told any tyre place could do them via an adapter but sometimes they'd deny they had one as they're a bit of a faff to set up and centre. I even had that happen at a Peugeot dealer.
Frost sell a bubble balancer, you could probably find one cheaper elsewhere.
https://www.frost.co.uk/static-wheel-balancer.html
Regarding your problem, simply pack up the wheel with home-made shims until it sits clear of the bubble bit. It's doesn't have to spin so it'll just sit there. Assuming you can keep it centred of course.
This vintage one would perhaps do it, just need to find one!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Sears-Wheel-Tire-...
https://www.frost.co.uk/static-wheel-balancer.html
Regarding your problem, simply pack up the wheel with home-made shims until it sits clear of the bubble bit. It's doesn't have to spin so it'll just sit there. Assuming you can keep it centred of course.
This vintage one would perhaps do it, just need to find one!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Sears-Wheel-Tire-...
Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 9th July 17:23
Back when I used to fit tyres for a living there were a few wheels that were solid in the centre.
Some Peugeot (maybe GTI6) wheels if my memory serves me right.
Where I used to work there was a adapter that went on the balancer so the wheels could be bolted to it.
Might be worth trying some other maybe smaller tyre places.
I remember it was quite a pain to swap onto the balancer & only recall doing once or twice.
Some Peugeot (maybe GTI6) wheels if my memory serves me right.
Where I used to work there was a adapter that went on the balancer so the wheels could be bolted to it.
Might be worth trying some other maybe smaller tyre places.
I remember it was quite a pain to swap onto the balancer & only recall doing once or twice.
Edited by laters on Monday 9th July 18:21
Sit it upside down on a spike in the garden and you'll see where the weights need to go
Or try these
https://www.dynabeads.co.uk
Or try these
https://www.dynabeads.co.uk
Interesting that a relatively recent Peugeot might hold the key - my Avon wheels on the Vauxhalls have very narrow holes in the centre, which makes it impossible to fit them onto a standard balancing machine as used currently. I've always got away with not having to balance them, but it's anyone's guess whether it would ride better if they were done.
996Keef said:
I've tried those. They're better than totally unbalanced, but nowhere near as good as actually balancing normally.See if you can find a gunson wheel balancer, that should do the job, it's a bubble type but doesn't come through the centre like the others.
Don't know if they're still available new so it's a case of shop around I'm afraidy
I'm near Bolton if it's any use, I'll have to find mine if needed
Don't know if they're still available new so it's a case of shop around I'm afraidy
I'm near Bolton if it's any use, I'll have to find mine if needed
Gafferjim said:
well, job done, I knew they were a long way out.............but didn't think they'd require a days output from the lead mine!
Inside of wheel = 256 grams, outside of wheel = 85 grams, other wheel was slightly better, but not much..
Bloody hell!Inside of wheel = 256 grams, outside of wheel = 85 grams, other wheel was slightly better, but not much..
And they're definitely round and straight...?
TooMany2cvs said:
Bloody hell!
And they're definitely round and straight...?
Close enough, mind you they are 80 years old, and have tubes inside, possibly with patches, who knows? I'm not taking them out to check until the dreaded puncture happens, then it's balancing again...................And they're definitely round and straight...?
Gafferjim said:
well, job done, I knew they were a long way out.............but didn't think they'd require a days output from the lead mine!
Inside of wheel = 256 grams, outside of wheel = 85 grams, other wheel was slightly better, but not much..
I’d have asked them to turn the turn 180 degrees at that point and start again. In theory you’d have gotten away with far fewer weights.Inside of wheel = 256 grams, outside of wheel = 85 grams, other wheel was slightly better, but not much..
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