How practical is a 'Practical Classic' as a taxi?
How practical is a 'Practical Classic' as a taxi?
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Tyre Smoke

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23,018 posts

290 months

Thursday 27th September 2018
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I run a taxi business in Devon. We are in need of a new cab.

I only want to spend around £4-5000. I've looked at a few of the usual suspects, Skodas, Mondeos, etc, and then I had a thought outside of the usual. The local council will allow classics to be registered as Private Hire (presumably for wedding hire,etc) but I thought of something else....

The car will do about 20,000 a year. It needs to be tidy, without being a shed - no sagging headlining, no rust spots, no missing doorcards, etc. It won't be used on stop start work, most of our jobs are a minimum of 10 miles from engine start to engine stop. So I thought why not put on a classic for the novelty value? For the 'overflow jobs' that the test of the fleet can't cope with.
My thinking would be it would be a talking point, would get all over social media and raise the company profile and could perhaps be used as the occasional wedding car (not that I want to go down that route particularly, but if it makes a few quid....)

So, my thoughts are Rover P4/P5. Humber Hawk, Humber Imperial....

This particularly.... Clicky


Talk me out of this, because I'm not seeing any downsides so far except fuel economy.

S100HP

13,770 posts

196 months

Thursday 27th September 2018
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Tyre Smoke said:
I run a taxi business in Devon. We are in need of a new cab.

I only want to spend around £4-5000. I've looked at a few of the usual suspects, Skodas, Mondeos, etc, and then I had a thought outside of the usual. The local council will allow classics to be registered as Private Hire (presumably for wedding hire,etc) but I thought of something else....

The car will do about 20,000 a year. It needs to be tidy, without being a shed - no sagging headlining, no rust spots, no missing doorcards, etc. It won't be used on stop start work, most of our jobs are a minimum of 10 miles from engine start to engine stop. So I thought why not put on a classic for the novelty value? For the 'overflow jobs' that the test of the fleet can't cope with.
My thinking would be it would be a talking point, would get all over social media and raise the company profile and could perhaps be used as the occasional wedding car (not that I want to go down that route particularly, but if it makes a few quid....)

So, my thoughts are Rover P4/P5. Humber Hawk, Humber Imperial....

This particularly.... Clicky


Talk me out of this, because I'm not seeing any downsides so far except fuel economy.
People being risk adverse to travelling in an older car?

Wooda80

1,743 posts

104 months

Thursday 27th September 2018
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Is it able to comply with any safety requirements for licensing? Such as front and rear seat belts for example.

If you are doing 20000 miles per annum then how often will it need servicing?

I suppose that as long as you are not relying on it it would be a nice novelty if you fancied it. How practical it is and how much time it will spend off road / broken down only time will tell

Let us know how you get on!

Tyre Smoke

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Thursday 27th September 2018
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Yes, but I'm not planning on taking them to catch a flight!

For example, someone turning up at the railway station to go to a local wedding, nice touch to pick them up in a P5 or something?

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

155 months

Thursday 27th September 2018
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Tyre Smoke said:
This particularly.... Clicky
cloud9

Tyre Smoke said:
Talk me out of this
Nope. Shan't.

DO IT!

Seriously, if you can view the extra running costs as advertising, and if the local authority will licence it, then DO IT! Retro-fitted three-point belts all round are going to be a must, though, I think. It does say "Interior needs some restoration" - think I might be tempted to retrim in leather, simply for being harder-wearing than that slightly shabby WoE cloth.

Tyre Smoke

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Wooda80 said:
Is it able to comply with any safety requirements for licensing? Such as front and rear seat belts for example.

If you are doing 20000 miles per annum then how often will it need servicing?

I suppose that as long as you are not relying on it it would be a nice novelty if you fancied it. How practical it is and how much time it will spend off road / broken down only time will tell

Let us know how you get on!
The only thing it must comply with is it must pass an annual MOT and six monthly taxi test, which is essentially an MOT (so one is at the same time as the MOT) and that the seats have no rips, seatbelts work (if fitted) and all switches and lights work as they should. The only thing I can think of would be I'd need to add a cigarette socket to power to driver's (me) PDA. There is no requirement for a roof light on a Private Hire vehicle or any door signs. I can even get dispensation that the Private Hire plate does not need to be displayed on the rear.

Servicing would be a minimum of every 4k miles with preventative stuff in between.

jas xjr

11,309 posts

268 months

Thursday 27th September 2018
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The first thing that sprung to mind was a morris minor.quite inexpensive and plenty available. Good support too

P5BNij

15,875 posts

135 months

Thursday 27th September 2018
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Why not buy a classic Austin FX4 taxi... chrome bumpers, period plates, just add seatbelts and away you go!

Not sure about the insurance on a classic which will cover 20k miles a year though.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

155 months

Thursday 27th September 2018
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Tyre Smoke said:
There is no requirement for a roof light on a Private Hire vehicle or any door signs. I can even get dispensation that the Private Hire plate does not need to be displayed on the rear.
Use it to advertise! (Subtly and tastefully...)

boyse7en

8,165 posts

194 months

Thursday 27th September 2018
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jas xjr said:
The first thing that sprung to mind was a morris minor.quite inexpensive and plenty available. Good support too
Got to be honest, if I phoned for a minicab and a Morris Minor turned up I wouldn't be tremendously impressed, and I like classic cars. Most people younger than me would have no idea what it was except that it was a small, slow old car.
At least something like a Rover P5 has the size and heft to look like it will survive an impact and has a bit more space inside.

Tyre Smoke

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boyse7en said:
Got to be honest, if I phoned for a minicab and a Morris Minor turned up I wouldn't be tremendously impressed, and I like classic cars. Most people younger than me would have no idea what it was except that it was a small, slow old car.
At least something like a Rover P5 has the size and heft to look like it will survive an impact and has a bit more space inside.
Which is why I ruled them out, along with Minx's and the like.

This looks like it might have potential. Rear legroom doesn't look all that great though!


To clarify, as long as it's legal (with or without seatbelts) and will pass an MOT then I can use it. It won't be used for time critical journeys. I'll leave that to the modern stuff. or particularly long journeys - nobody wants to be stranded broken down or the fuel costs would outweigh any profit!

Dapster

9,403 posts

209 months

Thursday 27th September 2018
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boyse7en said:
jas xjr said:
The first thing that sprung to mind was a morris minor.quite inexpensive and plenty available. Good support too
....if I phoned for a minicab and a Morris Minor turned up ....
This. I am a massive car nerd but there is a time and a place. Even going to a rural wedding, I'd want a smooth ride, air con and no risk of being impaled on a bakelite and chrome spike in a 15 MPH frontal impact, let alone on a Tue morning trip to see a client.

I may be swayed if a 450SEL 6.9 or late 60's Quattroporte turned up but they are hardly first choice cars for 20k pa!

Unless you are running a classic taxi business and people know what they are getting, surprising them with a classic turning up may not go down at all well.

SonicShadow

2,452 posts

183 months

Thursday 27th September 2018
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Sounds wonderful until it leaves your customer and driver stranded in the arse end of nowhere on a cold, wet December evening!

Truckosaurus

13,229 posts

313 months

Thursday 27th September 2018
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It would be a good plan if the classic was something fancy, a big Jag or Bentley etc, that people would consider hiring for a prom night or wedding etc. But for general use I can't see the appeal, punters just want something comfy, warm/cool (depending on season) and reliable.

iDrive

443 posts

142 months

Thursday 27th September 2018
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I don't use Taxi/Private Hire very much at all, however...

Would I pay £11 to get to the Railway Station by (Volvo Amazon / Bentley Turbo R / Shadow / Land Rover LWB) rather than £9 by a 5 yr old Passat?

Yes.

Tyre Smoke

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Thursday 27th September 2018
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iDrive said:
I don't use Taxi/Private Hire very much at all, however...

Would I pay £11 to get to the Railway Station by (Volvo Amazon / Bentley Turbo R / Shadow / Land Rover LWB) rather than £9 by a 5 yr old Passat?

Yes.
The point is, it wouldn't cost any more than 5yo Passat.

And to the poster above, unless it was requested, it's unlikely to take you to the meeting or the wedding. However, if I did take you to the meeting or the wedding, you would still get there. There is no point in running a classic on a commercial basis if it's going to be inherently unreliable. Hence maintenance is the key. And if 2.0hdi Peugeot can do 300k reliably then so a classic can do 20k pa surely?

52classic

2,638 posts

239 months

Thursday 27th September 2018
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An FX3 might be fun. Private hire cars 'in period' would be the Farina A60 family, MK 2 Cortina or Granada. Why not put the taxi stuff on, I think it would add to the effect?

Tyre Smoke

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Thursday 27th September 2018
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Can't put a roof light on it, because it's Private Hire (roof light only legal on Hackney Carriages) and can't be flagged down, must be pre-booked only.

Can put the plate on the back and signwriting if I want to though.

alfaspecial

1,193 posts

169 months

Thursday 27th September 2018
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But are your legs Glamour Cabs










or Babs Cabs?



Edited by alfaspecial on Thursday 27th September 16:36

Tyre Smoke

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Thursday 27th September 2018
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I'm only Glamour Cabs at weekends when my name is Sandra.