Useable tax exempt classics
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Gooly

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977 posts

177 months

Thursday 11th April 2019
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Looking for some inspiration on useable tax exempt classics. Tax exemption works on a rolling 40year basis, which means at present its 1979 - lets work on the basis of 1981, as I'm interested in things that will be tax exempt and therefore ULEZ exempt by 2021.

Current thoughts are BMW E21s and E12s





Old mercs are also great, but frankly I don't know a whole lot about anything older than what I'd call 'young timer' classics. Looking for things which haven't had crazy levels of demand (eg old 911s), more just old everyday cars which are vaguely interesting.

Doofus

34,279 posts

202 months

Thursday 11th April 2019
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Go to Carandclassic, put in a price range and an 'era', and see what's out there. Build a (very long) shortlist, and start investigating. smile

Michaelbailey

651 posts

135 months

Thursday 11th April 2019
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VW Beetles are a popular choice and huge following so plenty of knowledge out there though you wont get the same comfort or refinement as the beemers. Although unless your in a rolls/Bentley anything tax exempt is going to very much feel its age

Triumph Man

9,573 posts

197 months

Thursday 11th April 2019
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E12s are cloud9

My username would suggest bias (and you'd be right) but how about a Triumph 2000/2500? Easy to maintain, interesting, not too old fashioned (rack and pinion steering, semi trailing arm independent rear suspension) only really negative point is rust.

I did 20,000 miles one year in mine when it was 38 years old, and aside from a radiator and a steering rack that I broke when hitting a badger (so not really the cars fault), it was fine.

ETA just seen the age bit... I would however suggest the big Triumph saloons feel a lot younger than they actually are - I went for a ride in a TR3 once, and my 2000 felt like a modern car in comparison.

rxe

6,700 posts

132 months

Thursday 11th April 2019
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I have two.

Daimler Sovereign 4.2 Series 2, 1976. Only down side is thirst, but it does have two petrol tanks.

Alfetta GTV 2.0, 1981. Not exactly a winter car, as they are, er, prone to corrosion.

BuzzBravado

2,949 posts

200 months

Thursday 11th April 2019
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Mini's.

peterperkins

3,436 posts

271 months

Thursday 11th April 2019
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I think the main problem is they aren't great on safety and need a lot more maintenance..

OK as classic enthusiasts we take a chance on sunny weekends going for a steady jaunty picnic or to le-mans etc etc

But as a daily driver rushing along with the herd in their mobile folding cocoons with fifteen airbags, etc etc on a commute..

Nah, save the classic for good days and use a modern safer comfortable A to B machine you don't care about for the donkey work..

Xcore

1,511 posts

119 months

Thursday 11th April 2019
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Scimitars

The Big G

1,004 posts

197 months

Thursday 11th April 2019
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Early three door Range Rover? Update the RV8 and I’m sure it would be great fun, comfortable and able to take on the awful road surfaces.

Teddy Lop

8,301 posts

96 months

Thursday 11th April 2019
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Old mercs from when they could still build a damn fine automobile still change hands for sensible $ don't they? My dad had a stacked headlight 220, love that era.

I guess datsun 280s are $$$$$$$?

Would be tempted to go restomod with something like this though, get the expemptions while running something a bit more modern/peppy in terms of performance and reliability, stick it to the man bro!

85Carrera

3,503 posts

266 months

Thursday 11th April 2019
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928?

The Big G

1,004 posts

197 months

Thursday 11th April 2019
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Teddy Lop said:
Would be tempted to go restomod with something like this though, get the expemptions while running something a bit more modern/peppy in terms of performance and reliability, stick it to the man bro!
1981 Range Rover Classic two door restomod 4.6 V8 https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2...

wink

eccles

14,366 posts

251 months

Thursday 11th April 2019
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peterperkins said:
I think the main problem is they aren't great on safety and need a lot more maintenance..
A well sorted W123 Mercedes is pretty safe for a classic, built like a tank and extensively crash tested during development.
They need minimal maintenance, and are quite a 'modern' experience, apart from the steering. Mine has central locking, is fuel injected so no fiddly chokes to play with, electric windows all round and an electric sunroof. It has modern touches like the interior light staying on for a bit after you're in and dual zone heating.
I've been using mine recently as an every day car, and it's not been off the road over winter, so it's certainly a contender.

larrylamb11

686 posts

280 months

Thursday 11th April 2019
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I've devoted a fair bit of energy and real world experience to this and, so far, a Porsche 924 has turned out to be hard to beat. It's amazingly competent as a properly usable tax exempt daily driver.
Scimitar GTE also very competent - quick, good noise, properly classic and fun feel but ultimately not as well resolved as the 924.
Mk1 Golfs and Scirrocos also on the list - great fun but a bit buzzy at motorway speeds.

aeropilot

40,524 posts

256 months

Thursday 11th April 2019
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E12's are lovely smile

Early Volvo 240GLT would be on my list as well, or a 264 GLE, as would an early Saab 900 Turbo.


williamp

20,380 posts

302 months

Thursday 11th April 2019
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Saaab 99?
924 or wait for the 944
Rover sd1
One of the datsun z cars
Early excel, with the toyota bits?

DailyHack

4,395 posts

140 months

Thursday 11th April 2019
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Michaelbailey said:
VW Beetles are a popular choice and huge following so plenty of knowledge out there though you wont get the same comfort or refinement as the beemers. Although unless your in a rolls/Bentley anything tax exempt is going to very much feel its age
Run a 1966 Beetle - and it's great being exempt from pretty much everything, rather weird.

I agree it's a very useable car even by today's standards, but I am very very happy I don't use it every day biggrin

Faust66

2,407 posts

194 months

Friday 12th April 2019
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Volvo Amazon... surely that's got to be on the list?

Not that I'm biased, mind.

Mr Tidy

31,221 posts

156 months

Saturday 13th April 2019
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eccles said:
A well sorted W123 Mercedes is pretty safe for a classic, built like a tank and extensively crash tested during development.
They need minimal maintenance, and are quite a 'modern' experience, apart from the steering. Mine has central locking, is fuel injected so no fiddly chokes to play with, electric windows all round and an electric sunroof. It has modern touches like the interior light staying on for a bit after you're in and dual zone heating.
I've been using mine recently as an every day car, and it's not been off the road over winter, so it's certainly a contender.
That takes me back - I had a 280e in the early 90s with the velour trim! Lovely car (even if it was brown).

But in the 80s I had another brown car that might fit the bill - a P6B Rover 3500S. But no PAS on mine, so the steering was even worse than my Mercedes!

Etypephil

724 posts

107 months

Saturday 13th April 2019
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Any Jag except the 2.4 Mk 1 & 2, and the 2.8 XJ.