Fiesta XR2 slipping away
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merlin66

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1 posts

167 months

Saturday 27th April 2019
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Hi all,
1st post for me on the forum, thought I’d share an image of a car that I found sat rusting a few weeks back. When these were knocking about, I dreamed of owning, I wonder if this is too far gone?

Shame

mbwoy84

624 posts

137 months

Saturday 27th April 2019
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I’d buy it. Still perfectly salvageable, although impossible to tell how much it would need from there.

Looks similar to a Capri near me. Parked up on a gravel drive on a house at the side of a country main road. I know a couple of people who have stopped to ask if they’d sell it. Always been the wife of the owner who has answered and said she’d love for it to be sold, but her husband won’t part with it. First time I know someone asking about it was in 2009 and guess it must have sat there for at least a year at the time. First you could see the tyres going flat, then slowly it’s got covered in algae then rust. When it was first parked there it looked in really good condition, but it’s going to be very run down now.

Apparently it hasn’t moved because he couldn’t get it started, but it can’t be difficult to sort out a 1.6 Pinto (I think that’s what it is), so there’s no chance he’s ever going to restore it now, so it’s sad to see. Where it’s parked it’s bound to have attracted a good number of people to stop and ask about it.

When it was first parked there it wouldn’t have been worth much because it was before lower-spec Capris really went North in value and it’s only a 1.6 Laser (I think), but now they have risen that car has deteriorated. Sad to see really.

Clio200pat

154 posts

213 months

Saturday 27th April 2019
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That’s in Ambleside isn’t it? Round the back near the Golden Rule pub.

If it is the same car, I first saw it there in 2016 & it looked the same. Great little cars, I had the Mk II C reg as my first car in 1997, was pretty rotten even back then.

mbwoy84

624 posts

137 months

Saturday 27th April 2019
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It’s not been MOT’d since it’s been recorded online, so been off the road 15 years + I’d say

SilverHarrier

217 posts

189 months

Saturday 27th April 2019
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Yeah, shame that. Not everyone's cup of tea but I always liked the XR2's. Had a couple of Mk1's and a Mk2 for a while.

Looks like a car that's been left standard too, still got its dealer plate on the back and car itself looks quite straight. Should have a red decal fading down to nothing over the silver, cant work out if its been removed or just faded away?

Merlin, have you tried approaching the owner?

Touring442

3,096 posts

234 months

Saturday 27th April 2019
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SilverHarrier said:
Merlin, have you tried approaching the owner?
He's probably 'gonna do it up' one day etc.

Mr Tidy

30,010 posts

152 months

Sunday 28th April 2019
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Shame, but they weren't that special back in the day!

And it won't have a Pinto engine in a FWD Ford!

Either a Kent X-flow or a CVH depending on age - Kent X-flow would be my guess based on the Y plate and early shell.

Trouble is it would cost pretty much the same to restore as an XR3i/RS1600i/RS Turbo which will always be worth much more, so while they might make an economic proposition to restore I can't see that one working out too well.

Back in the 80s I considered those options, but in 1984 I bought a 1982 2.8i Capri - RWD and 6 cylinders just seemed so much better! laugh










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colin_p

4,503 posts

237 months

Sunday 28th April 2019
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Had a MK2 (1.6 CVH engine) back in the day and it was an absolute hoot.

One of those cars that isn't actually that fast but gives a lovely engaging sensation of speed.

mbwoy84

624 posts

137 months

Sunday 28th April 2019
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They’re a crossflow. All MK1’s were. Only switched to CVH in the MK2.

stevemcs

10,036 posts

118 months

Sunday 28th April 2019
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There is lots of info about it on faceache, the sunroof was left open for ages and its stood for years, something about it being the son's car and him passing away etc, the owner doesn't take kindly to people knocking on his door.

Dapster

8,999 posts

205 months

Sunday 28th April 2019
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I would have thought restoring something in this condition wouldn't be worth it and you'd be better off buying a good one in the first place. Then I checked the price of good ones - HOLY st!! This is pristine Porsche 944 money...

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1082980


ChrisPackit

271 posts

148 months

Monday 29th April 2019
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Yeah thats the car in Ambleside. Its owned by the guy who owns the Cycle shop that it sits outside, and I went it 3 years ago and offered to buy it. He said he must get 5 people a week going into the shop asking about it, but its not up for sale. Yes the sunroof fact is true too.

Johnnytheboy

24,499 posts

211 months

Monday 29th April 2019
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I recently sold my black mk1 XR2 (in slightly better nick than that!), partly because I got bored of finding bits when it broke.



That thing is way beyond redemption.

There are some XR2-specific bits that are like rocking-horse st and even general mk1 parts can be hard to source.

There just aren't enough of them and enough of a scene around them for people to be making new bits.


neutral 3

7,999 posts

195 months

Monday 29th April 2019
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I reluctantly got out of R5GT Turbos, as parts supply is now So ruddy poor and £ parts prices are absolutely Stupid, particularly via a certain supplier !

Yertis

19,587 posts

291 months

Monday 29th April 2019
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Are there any '80s classics for which parts supply isn't poor?

Dapster

8,999 posts

205 months

Monday 29th April 2019
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Yertis said:
Are there any '80s classics for which parts supply isn't poor?
The high end brands support their classics - it's just not economically viable with mass produced cheapies.

https://www.mercedes-benz.com/en/mercedes-benz/cla...
https://www.porsche.com/uk/accessoriesandservice/c...
https://www.bmwgroup-classic.com/en/offers-and-ser...
https://auto.ferrari.com/en_EN/sports-cars-models/...
https://www.lamborghini.com/en-en/ownership/spare-...

If you're pockets are deep enough you can get the factory to restore every nut and bolt....



https://petrolicious.com/articles/lamborghini-has-...

Johnnytheboy

24,499 posts

211 months

Monday 29th April 2019
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Yertis said:
Are there any '80s classics for which parts supply isn't poor?
I don't know about 80s, but things like MGB's you could build from new spares, because there is more of a scene.

I wonder if stuff like Golf GTis, Peugeot 205 GTi's are easier?

Ambleton

7,204 posts

217 months

Monday 29th April 2019
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Yertis said:
Are there any '80s classics for which parts supply isn't poor?
2cv
beetle/transporter etc

Touring442

3,096 posts

234 months

Monday 29th April 2019
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Yertis said:
Are there any '80s classics for which parts supply isn't poor?
German ones. Porsche supply tons of 924 bits still, VW for Golfs, BMW for E30's. Not cheap though.

I don't get XR2 love. I thought the Fiesta was a nasty little tin can in any shape or form. The fact that XR2 money will buy a really, really nice Alfasud Ti with (a lot of) change says how skewed it all is. Bizarre. I had an RS1600i back in 1988/9 and don't wish to own another. I mean, it was okay but typically Ford FWD harsh, cheap and nasty really. How much is one of those turds worth now??!! laugh

Yertis

19,587 posts

291 months

Tuesday 30th April 2019
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Johnnytheboy said:
I don't know about 80s, but things like MGB's you could build from new spares, because there is more of a scene.

I wonder if stuff like Golf GTis, Peugeot 205 GTi's are easier?
They're more difficult I'm sure. I can get anything for my TR – literally anything – overnight. Sometimes the quality is a bit iffy mind...

Ambleton said:
2cv
beetle/transporter etc
But they're also '50s/'60's/70's classics, and to be honest they're pretty simple beasts.

Touring442 said:
German ones. Porsche supply tons of 924 bits still, VW for Golfs, BMW for E30's. Not cheap though.

I don't get XR2 love. I thought the Fiesta was a nasty little tin can in any shape or form. The fact that XR2 money will buy a really, really nice Alfasud Ti with (a lot of) change says how skewed it all is. Bizarre. I had an RS1600i back in 1988/9 and don't wish to own another. I mean, it was okay but typically Ford FWD harsh, cheap and nasty really. How much is one of those turds worth now??!! laugh
I know Merc are excellent for their old cars (if pricey), and guessed Porsche might also be. Didn't realise BMW were good too. Audi are not renowned for their support of older models but to be fair to them they are getting a little better. I still spend a lot of time gleaning parts on forums and eBay though.

Agree on the Fiesta though, but then I don't get the whole Beetle thing either – nasty cars IMO. (Although they did provide a sort of seed-bed for the Quattro so shouldn't complain to much).