Respray questions
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petjam

Original Poster:

502 posts

175 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2019
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Thinking of having a car re-sprayed and I understand that there are two main options: -

1. Remove all trim, spray and then put trim back.
2. Tape up around trim and then spray.

The car is 40 years old and the risk of some of the trim breaking when being removed is high. I would then have to source replacements.

Obviously option 1 is the better option but is there a noticeable difference between the two?

designforlife

3,742 posts

192 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2019
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There is also a big quality and time difference between a bare metal respray and a blow over the prepped previous paint in the same colour.

The absolute best option is to go back to bare metal with everything inc. windows removed, but obviously this comes at a price, so you have to cut your cloth accordingly.

I would avoid a cheap blow over with trim intact unless you are on a seriously tiny budget and just need the car roadworthy.

And to answer the last question, yes, you can tell the difference from up to 2ft away, in my experience....but that will also depend on the quality of the painter and their prep and masking.

steveo3002

11,200 posts

203 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2019
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old tired paint most likley wants taking off so needs the trims off for a half decent job

vpr

3,927 posts

267 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2019
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Not even worth repainting if you don’t remove the trim imo

petjam

Original Poster:

502 posts

175 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2019
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Thanks all, that is what I was thinking.

I have been quoted c.£3k for option 2. Haven't been given a firm quote for option 1.

designforlife

3,742 posts

192 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2019
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Depending on where in the country you are, I would say £4-6k for all trim and windows removed and a respray in the same colour... for a bare metal respray add another £2 or 3k, but it really depends where you are and the level of bodyshop.

In Hertfordshire at a reputable higher end bodyshop, my integra DC5 cost about £6k for a respray in the same colour. That was all trim off, all glass out, new badges, new windscreen, few new seals and trims etc and door shuts done.

Shop around very, very carefully, you don't always get what you pay for at both the higher and lower ends of the scale... it varies A LOT!

I would never, ever get a car fully repainted again, it was a horrendous experience which involved 2 bodyshops and a lot of money. Ultimately a big reason I sold the car was down to the stress caused by paint shop f*ck ups and throwing money after getting a decent job done, and having to chase snagging issues for months after, car was in and out of bodyshops for around a year.

My biggest piece of advice having been through the mill with car paint - Don't go into this expecting a perfect job, you will be disappointed.

swisstoni

23,880 posts

308 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2019
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How screwed is the original finish?
A lot can be done to revive paint.

petjam

Original Poster:

502 posts

175 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2019
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swisstoni said:
How screwed is the original finish?
A lot can be done to revive paint.
I'm no pro but quite a few chips.

Skyedriver

23,319 posts

311 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2019
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petjam said:
I'm no pro but quite a few chips.
It's called patina and people often pay extra for it....

aeropilot

40,524 posts

256 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2019
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Skyedriver said:
petjam said:
I'm no pro but quite a few chips.
It's called patina and people often pay extra for it....
Quite.

Is it its original paint?

If so, even if less than perfect its likely that you will be devaluing the car considerably by doing option 2.

Of course, if you don't intend to sell at any point in future, a quick blow over spray job maybe in order.

If its still got its patina original paint, I wouldn't respray it at all.

swisstoni

23,880 posts

308 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2019
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I suggest an evening on YouTube looking at paint chip repair.
Not that difficult and a handy skill for any car owner.

Yertis

19,707 posts

295 months

Wednesday 24th July 2019
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aeropilot said:
Quite.

Is it its original paint?

If so, even if less than perfect its likely that you will be devaluing the car considerably by doing option 2.

Of course, if you don't intend to sell at any point in future, a quick blow over spray job maybe in order.

If its still got its patina original paint, I wouldn't respray it at all.
At which point does ‘patina’ become ‘tatty’ though? I’d love to not have to have the Quattro resprayed - doing it properly will be a nightmare of broken clips and associated NLA misery. BUT... the paint is really ropey, there’s a couple if rusty bits in the lower arch, some poorly repaired accident damage, paint flaking off off alloy parts mote dings. I could argue these things are “part of the car’s history”, but frankly from less than 50’ it’s not great.

GoodOlBoy

607 posts

132 months

Wednesday 24th July 2019
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What car is it ?

Unless you're loaded and place sentiment above value then it makes little sense to spend say £10k on a car worth half that.

Likewise I wouldn't dream of doing a blow-over on a car worth £100k. In fact I wouldn't dream of doing a blow-over on any car.

Get it done properly or don't bother would be my advice.

paintman

7,860 posts

219 months

Wednesday 24th July 2019
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petjam said:
Thinking of having a car re-sprayed and I understand that there are two main options: -

1. Remove all trim, spray and then put trim back.
2. Tape up around trim and then spray.

The car is 40 years old and the risk of some of the trim breaking when being removed is high. I would then have to source replacements.

Obviously option 1 is the better option but is there a noticeable difference between the two?
Short answer. Yes.

Pericoloso

44,044 posts

192 months

Wednesday 24th July 2019
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Are you able to do the trim ,windows removal yourself to save money at the bodyshop ?

droopsnoot

14,622 posts

271 months

Wednesday 24th July 2019
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Is the colour being changed?

smcapstick

67 posts

92 months

Wednesday 24th July 2019
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The trim must come off. I learned that the hard (expensive) way.

A blow-over is rubbish. They look ok at a distance, or on a digital photo (unscrupulous car dealer, anyone?)... but they do no good. Paint is to protect first and look pretty second. The joints, trims, corners and rubbers are where most outer rust problems occur so if you want the car to live, protect it like you should. A trim-off outside spray is still a tiny fraction of the cost a full bare-metal job would be, too.