My granddad's car - identification please
My granddad's car - identification please
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badrobotuk

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85 months

Saturday 31st August 2019
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Despite some Googling I've not identified the make and model - can any of you guys help?

https://imgur.com/a5vYNxN

Thanks

RichB

56,206 posts

313 months

Saturday 31st August 2019
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I'd say it's a Jaguar Mk IV .

threespires

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240 months

Saturday 31st August 2019
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badrobotuk said:
Despite some Googling I've not identified the make and model - can any of you guys help?

https://imgur.com/a5vYNxN

Thanks
Bentley 4¼ around 1938 would be my guess.

threespires

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Saturday 31st August 2019
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RichB

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Saturday 31st August 2019
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threespires said:
badrobotuk said:
Despite some Googling I've not identified the make and model - can any of you guys help?

https://imgur.com/a5vYNxN Thanks
Bentley 4¼ around 1938 would be my guess.
Roof line of the Bentley is flatter, the Jaguar is more rounded. Also this car has spinners which says it's got wire wheels with disc covers whereas the Bentley has hexagon shaped centres to the hubcaps.


badrobotuk

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Saturday 31st August 2019
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RichB said:
I'd say it's a Jaguar Mk IV .
Thanks, but don't all jags have the leaping jaguar emblem/ornament?


Edited by badrobotuk on Saturday 31st August 18:24

RichB

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Saturday 31st August 2019
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badrobotuk said:
RichB said:
I'd say it's a Jaguar Mk IV .
Thanks, but don't all jags have the leaping jaguar emblem?
No, back then it was the fashion to remove them and fit a personalised mascot

Wooda80

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104 months

Saturday 31st August 2019
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You know when they say that all modern cars look the same... ?

threespires

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Saturday 31st August 2019
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RichB said:
oof line of the Bentley is flatter, the Jaguar is more rounded. Also this car has spinners which says it's got wire wheels with disc covers whereas the Bentley has hexagon shaped centres to the hubcaps.

Yes, I agree, not a Bentley, a Jaguar.
The Jaguar has quarter lights & Bentley has none.

RichB

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313 months

Saturday 31st August 2019
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Wooda80 said:
You know when they say that all modern cars look the same... ?
How true. I often think that when you see car parks in the late '30s with rows of cars, all neatly lined up, all black and all looking the same!

badrobotuk

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Saturday 31st August 2019
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RichB said:
No, back then it was the fashion to remove them and fit a personalised mascot
I see. Thanks for that.

badrobotuk

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85 months

Saturday 31st August 2019
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I think it does look very much like the 1948 Jag - but an earlier model maybe.

Thanks for your thoughts everyone. I have one other car photo of my Granddad alongside a different car, I'll post it as a new thread so as not to muddy the waters with this motor.


RichB

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313 months

Saturday 31st August 2019
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Here's one sporting the optional disc wheel covers.

[ig]http://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/images/jaguar/jaguar-caravan.jpg[/img]

Touring442

3,096 posts

238 months

Saturday 31st August 2019
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Jaguar Mark IV, "the Bookies Bentley".

williamp

20,378 posts

302 months

Saturday 31st August 2019
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At the time Jaguars were considered cads cars, cut price Bentleys.

I think it is a Jaguar



Does this mean you are descended form a Cad or a Bounder?? As Terry Thomas would say...hard cheese old boy!

a8hex

5,832 posts

252 months

Saturday 31st August 2019
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The side lights on top of the wings aren't right for the Mk V, could it be an earlier SS Cars model?



From the Wiki page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Cars

or it could be



From the Wiki page from the Mk4, some images show the separate side lights while others show the integrated ones.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaguar_Mark_IV


Edited by a8hex on Saturday 31st August 21:21

RichB

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Saturday 31st August 2019
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I thought I answered this in the 2nd post? Yes, we all agree it's an SS Jaguar 1 1/2, 2 1/2 or 3 1/2 Litre (subsequently known as the Mk IV) with special equipment ACE wheel trims, probably a heater and few other bits. laugh

Peter3442

450 posts

97 months

Saturday 31st August 2019
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I think I'd say an SS Jaguar from around 1936-7. What makes me uncertain is that I thought they introduced the quarter lights and the 'faired in' side lamps at the same time. But, quite possibly the old side windows were used up before the old wings. Also the top of the radiator looks a bit deeper, but it's hard to judge from an old photo.

a8hex

5,832 posts

252 months

Saturday 31st August 2019
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RichB said:
I thought I answered this in the 2nd post? Yes, we all agree it's an SS Jaguar 1 1/2, 2 1/2 or 3 1/2 Litre (subsequently known as the Mk IV) with special equipment ACE wheel trims, probably a heater and few other bits. laugh
I'm sorry, you're right, you did, I'd originally miss read your post and thought you'd said Mk V and I'd thought it looked earlier... more SS time frame. Then I forgot to re-check after wondering through the pictures as it went on to being a Jaguar. The subsequent picture you posted must be a later car as the side light pods are different.

lowdrag

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242 months

Sunday 1st September 2019
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I say Bentley. The side lights on the Jaguar Mk IV are frenched in, on the Bentley sit proud. But in case you granddad buys a Mk IV, does he need a manual?