Classic?... how old?
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Upatdawn

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2,202 posts

177 months

Monday 16th September 2019
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For the purposes of insurance what exactly is a classic car?

what year for example?


cheers

any pointers to brokers/insurers who do this?



tapkaJohnD

2,000 posts

233 months

Monday 16th September 2019
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Government's prescription for free licence and MoT exemption is more than 40 years.
Which - for goodness sake! - makes early Fiestas and Golfs 'classic'!

There is no other definition, unlike the Veteran/Vintage ones.
John

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

219 months

Monday 16th September 2019
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tapkaJohnD said:
Which - for goodness sake! - makes early Fiestas and Golfs 'classic'!

John
eh?

Scrump

23,930 posts

187 months

Monday 16th September 2019
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My experience is the definition varies between insurers.
It is not just the age as some insurers will take a 20 year old 911 on a classic policy but wont take something like a 20 year old ford focus.

a8hex

5,832 posts

252 months

Monday 16th September 2019
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For insurance purposes it is probably just anything that the insurance company on the day considers you might use as a classic car, ie occasional toy not your everyday wheels.
One year when I was renewing the insurance on my classic they asked if I had any other cars, I asked what they'd quote on my 1994 X300, which would have been about 12 years old at the time. Sure they came back with a competitive price, then I asked about using it occasionally for business. for my XK150 this had been covered for free. But on the 12 years old they said no, it wouldn't count as a classic if I wanted business cover but would if I didn't.

JeremyBearimy

192 posts

257 months

Monday 16th September 2019
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I don't think there is a cut and dry answer, some are more open to the non tax exempt classic than others.

I have a mk1 Focus RS some take it as classic, most of the traditional classic insurance companies don't e.g the ones that sponsor the classic car shows , they will still offer insurance, but aren't generally that competitive, but some do class it as a classic. So its just a case of ringing round and seeing what they say.
Ive found the brokers very good for dealing with it, the likes of A plan, Adrian Flux etc and actually a lot of the classic policies are quite restrictive so you don't build up NCB, it probably won't cover you for other cars (which may or may not be an issue for you). So If you insure it through a specialist (like Adrian Flux) but not as a traditional classic you might find you get better cover, whilst still building in the extra you want like restricted mileage and guaranteed values.

Mr Tidy

31,221 posts

156 months

Monday 16th September 2019
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There doesn't seem to be any specific age.

I read about a company called Classic Line Insurance UK that has a scheme for "future classics" and got a very competitive quote from them in June for my 12 year old BMW Z4 Coupe.

The only reason I ended up going elsewhere was that they don't give any NCD, so if I had stayed with them for 2 years I'd lose any NCD entitlement.

sortedcossie

965 posts

157 months

Monday 16th September 2019
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I have my Escort Cosworth (1996) on a classic policy, think their terms was vehicle type has to be 25 years old (so in my case from 92') and needed to be a member of a recognised owners club that catered for it for valuation purposes.

Does seem to change from insurer to insurer though.

PositronicRay

28,935 posts

212 months

Tuesday 17th September 2019
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It's not just about the age but how you use it.

tapkaJohnD

2,000 posts

233 months

Tuesday 17th September 2019
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Classic Sports Car Club organises a "Future Classics" race series for cars from the '70s and '80s.

Their series for earlier cars, which I would call 'Classic' is the "Swinging '60s" series!
John

Upatdawn

Original Poster:

2,202 posts

177 months

Tuesday 17th September 2019
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tapkaJohnD said:
Classic Sports Car Club organises a "Future Classics" race series for cars from the '70s and '80s.

Their series for earlier cars, which I would call 'Classic' is the "Swinging '60s" series!
John
I didnt start swinging till the late 80's....lol

Nigel_O

3,829 posts

248 months

Tuesday 17th September 2019
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My 1999 Fiat Coupe is insured under a classic policy, although I'm very aware that at best, it can be classed as a "modern classic"

redchina

496 posts

290 months

Thursday 19th September 2019
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it all depends...

When I were a lad..
My first car was an MG BGT - built in 75 and full of rot when I got it for five grand in 96 or 97 ish.
A classic then - a classic now. (despite the rubber bumpers)

My current car is a '97 Honda Prelude - A classic?
not in 99% of people's eye's, despite now being the same age as the MG was when I bought that..
(the 1% is the local garage mechanic who loves it and talks me hind legs off when I see him)

so it's subjective - and always has been

a8hex

5,832 posts

252 months

Thursday 19th September 2019
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redchina said:
it all depends...
My current car is a '97 Honda Prelude - A classic?
not in 99% of people's eye's, despite now being the same age as the MG was when I bought that..
(the 1% is the local garage mechanic who loves it and talks me hind legs off when I see him)
LJK Setright used to talk the hind legs off everyone waxing lyrical about them back in the day, so that must count as another vote.

Bussolini

11,631 posts

114 months

Thursday 19th September 2019
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Nigel_O said:
My 1999 Fiat Coupe is insured under a classic policy, although I'm very aware that at best, it can be classed as a "modern classic"
My 2000 Alfa 156 couldn't be insured under a classic policy, but I could get quotes for similar aged cars from other marques.

lowdrag

13,181 posts

242 months

Saturday 21st September 2019
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IIRC Saga insured my 10 yr old Mercedes as a classic.

mike9009

10,785 posts

272 months

Sunday 22nd September 2019
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I have my 2004 Smart Roadster 'classic', insured as a 'classic' with Lancaster Insurance.

lowdrag

13,181 posts

242 months

Sunday 22nd September 2019
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It would be interesting to know how many cars nowadays actually last ten years, what with allowances for sending the old one for scrap etc. I guess more than 50% but I have no real idea.

PositronicRay

28,935 posts

212 months

Sunday 22nd September 2019
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lowdrag said:
It would be interesting to know how many cars nowadays actually last ten years, what with allowances for sending the old one for scrap etc. I guess more than 50% but I have no real idea.
I would think most, 2009 isn't an awfully old car.

a8hex

5,832 posts

252 months

Sunday 22nd September 2019
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PositronicRay said:
lowdrag said:
It would be interesting to know how many cars nowadays actually last ten years, what with allowances for sending the old one for scrap etc. I guess more than 50% but I have no real idea.
I would think most, 2009 isn't an awfully old car.
Both mine and LadyB8's cars are 2010 and I think of them as being the "new ones". Only thing that seems to be showing their age is that they don't have "radios" which natively pay media from our phones. Hardly seems worth changing a car for.