Bullitt '68 Mustang off to auction
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2,477 posts

198 months

Sunday 5th January 2020
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https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/mcqueen-bullitt...

Forecast to raise ~$4M. Bought for $3,500 back in 1974 by the current owners father. Not a bad return.

Grindle

764 posts

113 months

Sunday 5th January 2020
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More money than sense, even as a USA car fan and owner many times over, i have to say that that thing is in reality bloody awful as a car, it may as well be a piece of platinum or some well placed shares. Investment, probably, almost certainly. Car? Terrible.
Yes i do get the famous connection but it's stupidly overpriced.

anonymous-user

83 months

Sunday 5th January 2020
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Grindle said:
More money than sense, even as a USA car fan and owner many times over, i have to say that that thing is in reality bloody awful as a car, it may as well be a piece of platinum or some well placed shares. Investment, probably, almost certainly. Car? Terrible.
Yes i do get the famous connection but it's stupidly overpriced.
Even with the best intentions, it's hardly going to be pressed into use as a daily driver now, is it?

It's really a piece of memorabilia (the ultimate here) that happens to be a car.

coppice

9,697 posts

173 months

Sunday 5th January 2020
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God knows how much some besotted McQueen fan will pay. Bear in mind that a set of his race overalls went for $980 ,000 nearly ten years ago and the price reflected only the fact that a (very average ) actor's arse sat on on the driver's seat 50 years ago will doubtless make headlines. Me? For that brass I'll have a nice 911 and a DFV engined F1 car , and .with 400k change

I saw the film in period as a car mad teenager and my 15 year old self would be gob smacked that a so so film with a decent car chase would be elevated to its current status - see also The Italian Job .... Loved Le Mans though .

Edited by coppice on Sunday 5th January 17:32


Edited by coppice on Monday 6th January 07:52

Roo

11,504 posts

236 months

Sunday 5th January 2020
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The film is pretty rubbish as far as acting and plot go.

The only good bit about it is the car chase, but that's flawed by the repeated scenes filmed different angles cut into as if it's continuous.
The behind the scenes work that went into the chase is far more interesting.

As for the car....
Someone will pay a huge amount for it. Don't be surprised if it exceeds $10 million.

A lot of money for a museum exhibit. But a lot less than some artworks you wouldn't want in your living room.

pcn1

1,342 posts

248 months

Monday 6th January 2020
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Roo said:
The film is pretty rubbish as far as acting and plot go.
Funny... it was very popular at the time and made McQueen an even bigger superstar.

aeropilot

40,524 posts

256 months

Monday 6th January 2020
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pcn1 said:
Roo said:
The film is pretty rubbish as far as acting and plot go.
Funny... it was very popular at the time and made McQueen an even bigger superstar.
Indeed.

And its now considered even more of a classic of the era, and not just for the car chase, as evidenced by many of the modern critiques. In fact I've never seen any film critic say that the film is pretty rubbish as far as the acting, screenplay, script or plot is concerned, then or now?


pcn1

1,342 posts

248 months

Monday 6th January 2020
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Im just getting up on my soap box for a moment chaps, please bear with me

I do find it slightly annoying when people critise "old" things. Be that a car, film, music or whatever you care to mention.

Yes modern "things" should be better, we've had decades to improve. However that dose not mean older items are not without their own merit and worth.

I found myself watching the final sequence to The Good, the bad and the Ugly on youtube recently. A 50 year old film and to my mind, as a cinematic experince, its never been bettered. And only last week I took my son to see Star Wars... christ that was a dissapointment.

But hey, Im a 55 year old bloke so what do I know ? Im currently listening to Son House on the CD in my car. Read into that what you like..............

swisstoni

23,880 posts

308 months

Monday 6th January 2020
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pcn1 said:
Roo said:
The film is pretty rubbish as far as acting and plot go.
Funny... it was very popular at the time and made McQueen an even bigger superstar.
It takes more than a car chase to make a film notable 52 years later. Acting and plot were fine IMHO.
There is something special about it that makes it watchable again and again.

P5BNij

15,875 posts

135 months

Monday 6th January 2020
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swisstoni said:
pcn1 said:
Roo said:
The film is pretty rubbish as far as acting and plot go.
Funny... it was very popular at the time and made McQueen an even bigger superstar.
It takes more than a car chase to make a film notable 52 years later. Acting and plot were fine IMHO.
There is something special about it that makes it watchable again and again.
One of the best decisions McQueen ever made was to insist on hiring British director Peter Yates after seeing 'Robbery' in late '67. Yates' direction and editing of the opening car chase in this is what drew McQueen's attention at first. He learnt his craft working his way up through TV shows like The Saint and making documentaries and commercials. 'Robbery' was his first feature film and is just as much a classic now as 'Bullitt' is.










aeropilot

40,524 posts

256 months

Monday 6th January 2020
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P5BNij said:
swisstoni said:
pcn1 said:
Roo said:
The film is pretty rubbish as far as acting and plot go.
Funny... it was very popular at the time and made McQueen an even bigger superstar.
It takes more than a car chase to make a film notable 52 years later. Acting and plot were fine IMHO.
There is something special about it that makes it watchable again and again.
One of the best decisions McQueen ever made was to insist on hiring British director Peter Yates after seeing 'Robbery' in late '67. Yates' direction and editing of the opening car chase in this is what drew McQueen's attention at first. He learnt his craft working his way up through TV shows like The Saint and making documentaries and commercials. 'Robbery' was his first feature film and is just as much a classic now as 'Bullitt' is.
Indeed, and it was as much to do with the way Robbery was filmed, and not just the way the car chase was filmed in both, that gave Robbery and Bullitt such a distinctive atmospheric feel. Yates took what he done in Robbery to further level in Bullitt. The Lalo Schifrin musical score as well in Bullitt was well matched to the San Fran era of 1968 as well.

P5BNij

15,875 posts

135 months

Monday 6th January 2020
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A lot of stuff filmed in California between say '67 and '73 has a certain feel to it when you watch them now, Point Blank, Bullitt, Dirty Harry, The Streets Of San Francisco etc, with the added bonus of people like Schifrin doing the scores - his influence is very apparent in The Streets Of San Franciso.

When they came to score Bullitt, Schifrin suggested to McQueen and Yates that the car chase sequence should be almost devoid of music, McQueen wasn't sure at first but knew it was the right decision once he'd seen the finished cut. The supporting cast in this are all spot on too, particularly so with Robert Vaughan's snidey Chalmers character.

aeropilot

40,524 posts

256 months

Monday 6th January 2020
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P5BNij said:
When they came to score Bullitt, Schifrin suggested to McQueen and Yates that the car chase sequence should be almost devoid of music, McQueen wasn't sure at first but knew it was the right decision once he'd seen the finished cut.
It was only devoid of music from the point where the Charger pulls an illegal left turn by Bimbo's and burns the skins up Chestnut St., as up to that point Schifrin's 'Shiftin Gears' track builds up the tension nicely as McQueen swapped from being tailed to the one tailing.....that point where the music changes just as the Mustang pops into view in the Charger's rear view mirror is still a classic movie clip.


P5BNij

15,875 posts

135 months

Monday 6th January 2020
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aeropilot said:
P5BNij said:
When they came to score Bullitt, Schifrin suggested to McQueen and Yates that the car chase sequence should be almost devoid of music, McQueen wasn't sure at first but knew it was the right decision once he'd seen the finished cut.
It was only devoid of music from the point where the Charger pulls an illegal left turn by Bimbo's and burns the skins up Chestnut St., as up to that point Schifrin's 'Shiftin Gears' track builds up the tension nicely as McQueen swapped from being tailed to the one tailing.....that point where the music changes just as the Mustang pops into view in the Charger's rear view mirror is still a classic movie clip.
Yes, perfection on 35mm...! wink



The Mustang was used by the family as a daily runabout for about five or six years I think, it still has the tubing underneath where the camera mounts were attached...



You can see one in this shot...



Fair play to the family if they feel like selling it, they've enjoyed it, I just wonder what will happen to it next - kept as it is and protected as much as possible or restored with all of the patina gone for good...?

Loose_Cannon

1,602 posts

282 months

Monday 6th January 2020
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Roo said:
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Someone will pay a huge amount for it. Don't be surprised if it exceeds $10 million.
This^^

Personally I get sick of all the King of Cool bullst that some people (usually with some memorabilia to sell) increasingly heap upon McQueen. An allegedly troubled childhood resulted in more than a few character flaws in real life so it is told. Yes he had some nice cars and bikes, but you probably wouldn't be happy if he married your daughter.


aeropilot

40,524 posts

256 months

Monday 6th January 2020
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Yep,the camera mount fixings were how they were able to identify the surviving Charger as well, as there is clear evidence of the location in the boot floor where they mounted the camera supports for when the cameraman sat in the boot of one of the Chargers, so almost certainly its this Charger that is the survivor.



coppice

9,697 posts

173 months

Monday 6th January 2020
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P5BNij said:
A lot of stuff filmed in California between say '67 and '73 has a certain feel to it when you watch them now, .
Absolutely - and it's why we can appreciate films from then as being so evocative of a lost era. But at the time ? It was just a watchable film , and I can't remember anyone getting especially excited about it . Like so many films of that time (The Wicker Man anyone?Now there was a really crap B movie ) Bullitt had greatness thrust upon it retrospectively

Touring442

3,096 posts

238 months

Monday 6th January 2020
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Bullitt is a great film with a superb supporting cast - Bill Hickman driving the Charger was a very serious driver as well. Rare for a stunt driver to take a starring role.

It's not as well rounded as Dirty Harry, but not much is.

aeropilot

40,524 posts

256 months

Monday 6th January 2020
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Touring442 said:
Bullitt is a great film with a superb supporting cast - Bill Hickman driving the Charger was a very serious driver as well. Rare for a stunt driver to take a starring role.
It was as much luck as anything, as Hickman was already in San Fran at the time working as a driver in the filming of The Love Bug, as indeed were Carey Loftin and Bud Ekins.

Zener

19,433 posts

250 months

Tuesday 7th January 2020
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Preferred the 440 Charger this was the star car as far as I'm concerned smokin and at least it had a posi trac compared to the 390 Mustang which clearly dont laugh with an inferior engine and less pleasing body shape