Another mystery car
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AL5026

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486 posts

209 months

Tuesday 21st April 2020
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Cross posting from Twitter. Here are the pictures.
Gatso and Allard already ruled out apparently.



mk1coopers

1,408 posts

173 months

Tuesday 21st April 2020
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Looks like it's at Goodwood in top shot, might help with looking at the local builders / converters in that area during that time frame ?

zzrman

670 posts

210 months

Tuesday 21st April 2020
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mk1coopers said:
Looks like it's at Goodwood in top shot, might help with looking at the local builders / converters in that area during that time frame ?
Might also be Shelsey Walsh, but I think Goodwood is the better bet.

RHD so almost certainly British. I wondered Berkeley but I couldn't fins any images with the split screen.

Roy C

4,205 posts

305 months

Tuesday 21st April 2020
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zzrman said:
RHD so almost certainly British.
Unless it's a rebodied 30s French or Italian car. Some of the styling appears to resemble European designs of the 1930s. The front seems quite low, so possibly not a big engine.

zzrman

670 posts

210 months

Tuesday 21st April 2020
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Roy C said:
Unless it's a rebodied 30s French or Italian car. Some of the styling appears to resemble European designs of the 1930s. The front seems quite low, so probably not a big engine.
Yes, my initial thought was a Delage or a Delahaye. And you're right about the low frontal area.

friederich

265 posts

207 months

Tuesday 21st April 2020
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Wings and screen are very similar to Aston DB1, so I'll go with a custom bodied Aston.

Turbobanana

7,691 posts

222 months

Tuesday 21st April 2020
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friederich said:
Wings and screen are very similar to Aston DB1, so I'll go with a custom bodied Aston.
Headlights too.

Riley Blue

22,807 posts

247 months

Tuesday 21st April 2020
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Is it possible to find out who used the trade plate '301 PD'?

john2443

6,485 posts

232 months

Tuesday 21st April 2020
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It's odd that it has the same trade plate when in good condition as (presumably some years later?) when rough?

Unless the bottom pic is before completion and not after deterioration?

Turbobanana

7,691 posts

222 months

Tuesday 21st April 2020
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john2443 said:
It's odd that it has the same trade plate when in good condition as (presumably some years later?) when rough?

Unless the bottom pic is before completion and not after deterioration?
I think it's the latter, although don't forget that until it was outlawed many garages had trade plates permanently affixed to their breakdown truck.

nicanary

10,882 posts

167 months

Tuesday 21st April 2020
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This car was featured in a group puzzle on Autopuzzles some years ago. I don't think it was ever correctly identified but the general consensus was that it was an MG special. In the second image most of the cars in the field are MGs and possibly it was an MGCC club meeting.

Otherwise, completely leftfield, but how about the mysterious Gordano coupe?

Turbobanana

7,691 posts

222 months

Tuesday 21st April 2020
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Riley Blue said:
Is it possible to find out who used the trade plate '301 PD'?
Don't know, but PD was a Guildford identifier, which probably means nowt other than where the owner lived.

Mike-tf3n0

573 posts

103 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2020
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There's something AC about the windscreen and passenger cell part of the car.

cjb44

739 posts

139 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2020
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Mike-tf3n0 said:
There's something AC about the windscreen and passenger cell part of the car.
I can assure you that AC never produced anything like that, not even as a prototype.

medieval

1,499 posts

232 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2020
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It does seem to be a special owing to the way the front end appears to be grafted on and the design is very unresolved in my view

h0b0

8,829 posts

217 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2020
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cjb44 said:
Mike-tf3n0 said:
There's something AC about the windscreen and passenger cell part of the car.
I can assure you that AC never produced anything like that, not even as a prototype.
Assuming the second picture is either part way through restoring or customization then I would not be too quick to rule out AC. It looks to me in the second photo the different paint colours would be because the front is not original

I know there is a lot wrong with this image but there are similarities as well. If someone chopped of the front of this one and stuck on the front of the OPs it is not that far away.



cjb44

739 posts

139 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2020
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h0b0 said:
Assuming the second picture is either part way through restoring or customization then I would not be too quick to rule out AC. It looks to me in the second photo the different paint colours would be because the front is not original

I know there is a lot wrong with this image but there are similarities as well. If someone chopped of the front of this one and stuck on the front of the OPs it is not that far away.

Trust me, they have never done anything like that.

nicanary

10,882 posts

167 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2020
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The badge on the nose is very indistinct but would obviously be a huge clue if it could be recognised.

The proportions of the bulbous passenger area perxhed on the attempt at streamlining reminds me of a poor copy of a Figoni & Falaschi Talbot Lago teardrop.

pubrunner

487 posts

104 months

Sunday 26th April 2020
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AL5026 said:
Cross posting from Twitter. Here are the pictures.
Gatso and Allard already ruled out apparently.


It could well be a 'special' from the 50s.

It looks similar (though not the same) to an early 50s TVR saloon - check out this link :

https://www.alamy.com/tvr-rgs-atalanta-bodied-prot...