Anyone happen to have a Silver Shadow lying about?

[DonkeyApple]

A slightly odd request but it would be very helpful to know the length dimensions of the frame around the front door glass of a Shadow. The length of the three sides basically. The leading edge, top and rear.

I’m trying to work out how much longer the dimensions are on a 2 door Rangie v a Shadow to establish how much mucking about would be needed using the secondary door seals.

[DonkeyApple]

Or a 80s car as the trim in question also fits those.

[TarquinMX5]

It's a pity you didn't ask yesterday - I have a Shadow11 but I keep it 'elsewhere' and I was there yesterday. However, I'll be able to do it in two weeks or so if you haven't had any joy by then.

[DonkeyApple]

Thanks. Much appreciated.

[Carsie]

The length of the window glass 570.5 mm wide and 350.5 mm high plus the edge which is sitting inside the window channel; I'm guessing this is 1 cm either side.

Measured across the top of the door shell including the 1/4 light (chrome frame edge to edge) is 860 mm

The chrome surround is 15 mm in width.

Hope this helps

p.s what are you trying to do?

[DonkeyApple]

Many thanks. So the total length of the gram surrounding the glass from the front edge, up, along and down to the rear lower edge is 860mm?

I’m intending to put to bed the twenty year mysterybof the legendary Overfinch secondary seal on Range Rover Classics.

They would never have had an extrusion made but taken something off the shelf dating back to the 70s. The obvious candidate being something like a Roller. Everything Overfinch did was sourced from already existing elements.

Several of us are pretty sure this is where they came from. I’m still kicking myself that I never bothered checking my own Overfinch when I owned it but the Rolls Royce seals are back in production. I’ve recently spoken to the firm doing them and they reckon that they are the same seal.

The reason for wanting to know the length is that obviously a 2 door Rangie is going to be longer but I’ve been advised as to how much excess the Rolls ones have and I wanted to check if there was a tiny chance that it would be enough. I doubt it so the next step will be to get one of the Rolls seals, confirm it works and then have these guys make them for me.

[DonkeyApple]

[DonkeyApple]

On the 2 door:

Leading edge is <70cm
Top edge is 80cm
Back edge is <60cm

[Auntieroll]

Have you tried C.O.H. Baines ? , they used to make rubber extrusions for a number of small manufacturers

[DonkeyApple]

Thanks. They have three profiles that might be worth trying:

https://coh-baines.co.uk/product/irs-0139ep-epdm-a...

https://coh-baines.co.uk/product/irs-0043ep-epdm-t...

https://coh-baines.co.uk/product/irs-0326ep-epdm-a...


The proper one suggests that it is designed to be pulled in, against the bodywork as speed increases so making the seal tighter but also flush:

[Huntsman]

I have a Shadow here if you wamt anything else measured

[Rangeroverover]

I would try corniche/mpw

[TarquinMX5]

DA

Are you aware of Flying Spares for RR/Bentley parts? I can't copy the link but www.flyingspares.com

then Silver Shadow, Body seals, front door seals etc..

I can't vouch for the quality of the seals as I haven't used them but I have used F. Spares and the items I've had have been fine.

[DonkeyApple]

Thanks. They are the same as IntroCar but double the price.

[Huntsman]

In my experience Flying Spares quality is better.

[DonkeyApple]

Thanks.

What I think would be really useful would be a photo of a door, focussed on the rear upper corner showing the strip in position and the size of the body frame. I suspect my gaps are larger.

[Huntsman]

Message me a mob number and I'll whatsapp some over

[DonkeyApple]

Thanks Ben. That would be superb. Getting Rangie 2 door doors lined up is an art and often to get the panels perfectly aligned you end up hiding the discrepancies in the window frame which being Blackmon black doesn’t show.

I have a passenger door that is flush with the frame and while the gap around is uneven a secondary seal that operates on the outside will probably work but on the drivers door that top edge of the frame kicks out around 4mm which I think will be an issue but there is no more frame adjustment available.

[NomduJour]

The Spirit secondary seals I looked at have a single 90 degree corner, but the ends aren’t finished so can be trimmed.

[DonkeyApple]

I’ve a feeling the frame gap on the Rangie will be too large for this to work well.

I’ve bought a few metres of this to see how it would work: https://coh-baines.co.uk/product/irs-0139ep-epdm-a...