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So, as someone who has always had an interest in Capris (10 or so in my younger days in the 90's) and sadly owning none now, have been hankering after one, and came across this:
https://twitter.com/CarAndClassic/status/132154271...
So, I know there was never such a thing as a Capri 2.8i Ghia.... and I'm pretty sure that the 2.8i was not available until 1982. So I am just wondering what this car was originally.
It is missing the decals from the side, and the badging on the rear is missing (that is a MkII badge) - OK, it has had a respray but the decals are reasonably easily available....
Interior and wheels are off a later 2.8i Special.
So what was it was originally - the logbook says Capri Ghia, and it has a 6 cylinder rev counter in it, so I am thinking it is a 3.0 Ghia that has has and engine and interior/wheels swap.
Not sure about the Bodgey McBodgeson wiring in the engine bay, including the electrical pattress near the bulkhead containing something.
Other than the mess under the bonnet, it looks a solid, clean and straight car. Needs the engine bay tidying and the seats retrimming (or returning to original spec).
Anyone shed any light?
https://twitter.com/CarAndClassic/status/132154271...
So, I know there was never such a thing as a Capri 2.8i Ghia.... and I'm pretty sure that the 2.8i was not available until 1982. So I am just wondering what this car was originally.
It is missing the decals from the side, and the badging on the rear is missing (that is a MkII badge) - OK, it has had a respray but the decals are reasonably easily available....
Interior and wheels are off a later 2.8i Special.
So what was it was originally - the logbook says Capri Ghia, and it has a 6 cylinder rev counter in it, so I am thinking it is a 3.0 Ghia that has has and engine and interior/wheels swap.
Not sure about the Bodgey McBodgeson wiring in the engine bay, including the electrical pattress near the bulkhead containing something.
Other than the mess under the bonnet, it looks a solid, clean and straight car. Needs the engine bay tidying and the seats retrimming (or returning to original spec).
Anyone shed any light?
I cannot open that link, but is it this one?
https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/auctions/1981-ford...
I am with you on the memory of Ghia's only being available with the Essex 3.0 and not the Cologne 2.8. In fact I have memories of a friends mate rocking up to the pub with one of the first injections with checked seats and a four speed box.
The 2.8 was fitted to European cars earlier than the UK, so I wonder if its a RHD spec import?
Hol said:
I cannot open that link, but is it this one?
https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/auctions/1981-ford...
I am with you on the memory of Ghia's only being available with the Essex 3.0 and not the Cologne 2.8. In fact I have memories of a friends mate rocking up to the pub with one of the first injections with checked seats and a four speed box.
The 2.8 was fitted to European cars earlier than the UK, so I wonder if its a RHD spec import?
That's the one. https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/auctions/1981-ford...
I am with you on the memory of Ghia's only being available with the Essex 3.0 and not the Cologne 2.8. In fact I have memories of a friends mate rocking up to the pub with one of the first injections with checked seats and a four speed box.
The 2.8 was fitted to European cars earlier than the UK, so I wonder if its a RHD spec import?
I have a recollection of there being a 2.0 Ghia, but that may have only been on the MkIIs
I agree, the early 2.8i's I am sure only had a 4 speed, and the later 2.8i Special had the 5 speed.
neutral 3 said:
I saw this on the Capri F Ache page.
You need the Vin / Chassis number, to decode its build options.
Looking on my PC, rather than on my phone, I realise the Chassis plate is photographed...You need the Vin / Chassis number, to decode its build options.
Engine code HY - So it is indeed (or was) a 3.0 high compression V6 - so an Essex Engined 3.0 Ghia originally.
So has someone swapped the engine for a Cologne, or have they fuel injected the Essex - can't tell enough from the photos.
If it was a doner car supplying the parts - based on them all being 2.8i Special, I would have expected it to have a 5 speed box (appears to be 4 speed in the pics).
Looking at the paint code it seems to have been resprayed in its original colour at least.
Edited by TriumphStag3.0V8 on Thursday 29th October 13:28
TriumphStag3.0V8 said:
Looking on my PC, rather than on my phone, I realise the Chassis plate is photographed...
Engine code HY - So it is indeed (or was) a 3.0 high compression V6 - so an Essex Engined 3.0 Ghia originally.
So has someone swapped the engine for a Cologne, or have they fuel injected the Essex - can't tell enough from the photos.
If it was a doner car supplying the parts - based on them all being 2.8i Special, I would have expected it to have a 5 speed box (appears to be 4 speed in the pics).
Engine is a Cologne (dizzy at the rear Essex had dizzy at the front).Engine code HY - So it is indeed (or was) a 3.0 high compression V6 - so an Essex Engined 3.0 Ghia originally.
So has someone swapped the engine for a Cologne, or have they fuel injected the Essex - can't tell enough from the photos.
If it was a doner car supplying the parts - based on them all being 2.8i Special, I would have expected it to have a 5 speed box (appears to be 4 speed in the pics).
I don’t think it was a Ghia originally as it hasn’t got the body side bump strips. (Could have bedbugs removed and plopped I guess.
Best bet is it started life as a 3.0s and someone nicked a 2.8 special for the bits. There’s nothing Ghia about it.
But it’s not worth putting a 2.8 lump in and getting rid of The Essex.
Odd one. A bitsa to be sure. Need to check chassis stamp carefully .
Best bet is it started life as a 3.0s and someone nicked a 2.8 special for the bits. There’s nothing Ghia about it.
But it’s not worth putting a 2.8 lump in and getting rid of The Essex.
Odd one. A bitsa to be sure. Need to check chassis stamp carefully .
markymarkthree said:
TriumphStag3.0V8 said:
Looking on my PC, rather than on my phone, I realise the Chassis plate is photographed...
Engine code HY - So it is indeed (or was) a 3.0 high compression V6 - so an Essex Engined 3.0 Ghia originally.
So has someone swapped the engine for a Cologne, or have they fuel injected the Essex - can't tell enough from the photos.
If it was a doner car supplying the parts - based on them all being 2.8i Special, I would have expected it to have a 5 speed box (appears to be 4 speed in the pics).
Engine is a Cologne (dizzy at the rear Essex had dizzy at the front).Engine code HY - So it is indeed (or was) a 3.0 high compression V6 - so an Essex Engined 3.0 Ghia originally.
So has someone swapped the engine for a Cologne, or have they fuel injected the Essex - can't tell enough from the photos.
If it was a doner car supplying the parts - based on them all being 2.8i Special, I would have expected it to have a 5 speed box (appears to be 4 speed in the pics).
I noticed the following, using a decode website.
Engine code as stated is HY = 3000cc
Axle/final drive is L = 3.09
Trans/Gearbox is D = Auto.
I couldn't anything to explain the trim code, but this car started as a 3.0 auto, before being converted to a manual 2.8 injection at some point.
I imaging it was an easy conversation, if you had a donor car with all the required parts fitted.
.
edit: This was my cheat sheet:
https://www.classicfordmag.co.uk/wp-content/upload...
Edited by Hol on Thursday 29th October 17:05
Hol said:
markymarkthree said:
TriumphStag3.0V8 said:
Looking on my PC, rather than on my phone, I realise the Chassis plate is photographed...
Engine code HY - So it is indeed (or was) a 3.0 high compression V6 - so an Essex Engined 3.0 Ghia originally.
So has someone swapped the engine for a Cologne, or have they fuel injected the Essex - can't tell enough from the photos.
If it was a doner car supplying the parts - based on them all being 2.8i Special, I would have expected it to have a 5 speed box (appears to be 4 speed in the pics).
Engine is a Cologne (dizzy at the rear Essex had dizzy at the front).Engine code HY - So it is indeed (or was) a 3.0 high compression V6 - so an Essex Engined 3.0 Ghia originally.
So has someone swapped the engine for a Cologne, or have they fuel injected the Essex - can't tell enough from the photos.
If it was a doner car supplying the parts - based on them all being 2.8i Special, I would have expected it to have a 5 speed box (appears to be 4 speed in the pics).
I noticed the following, using a decode website.
Engine code as stated is HY = 3000cc
Axle/final drive is L = 3.09
Trans/Gearbox is D = Auto.
I couldn't anything to explain the trim code, but this car started as a 3.0 auto, before being converted to a manual 2.8 injection at some point.
.
Now the side bump strips have gone maybe it’s a ringer. Either way I’d be careful
vpr said:
Hol said:
markymarkthree said:
TriumphStag3.0V8 said:
Looking on my PC, rather than on my phone, I realise the Chassis plate is photographed...
Engine code HY - So it is indeed (or was) a 3.0 high compression V6 - so an Essex Engined 3.0 Ghia originally.
So has someone swapped the engine for a Cologne, or have they fuel injected the Essex - can't tell enough from the photos.
If it was a doner car supplying the parts - based on them all being 2.8i Special, I would have expected it to have a 5 speed box (appears to be 4 speed in the pics).
Engine is a Cologne (dizzy at the rear Essex had dizzy at the front).Engine code HY - So it is indeed (or was) a 3.0 high compression V6 - so an Essex Engined 3.0 Ghia originally.
So has someone swapped the engine for a Cologne, or have they fuel injected the Essex - can't tell enough from the photos.
If it was a doner car supplying the parts - based on them all being 2.8i Special, I would have expected it to have a 5 speed box (appears to be 4 speed in the pics).
I noticed the following, using a decode website.
Engine code as stated is HY = 3000cc
Axle/final drive is L = 3.09
Trans/Gearbox is D = Auto.
I couldn't anything to explain the trim code, but this car started as a 3.0 auto, before being converted to a manual 2.8 injection at some point.
.
Now the side bump strips have gone maybe it’s a ringer. Either way I’d be careful
Hol said:
markymarkthree said:
TriumphStag3.0V8 said:
Looking on my PC, rather than on my phone, I realise the Chassis plate is photographed...
Engine code HY - So it is indeed (or was) a 3.0 high compression V6 - so an Essex Engined 3.0 Ghia originally.
So has someone swapped the engine for a Cologne, or have they fuel injected the Essex - can't tell enough from the photos.
If it was a doner car supplying the parts - based on them all being 2.8i Special, I would have expected it to have a 5 speed box (appears to be 4 speed in the pics).
Engine is a Cologne (dizzy at the rear Essex had dizzy at the front).Engine code HY - So it is indeed (or was) a 3.0 high compression V6 - so an Essex Engined 3.0 Ghia originally.
So has someone swapped the engine for a Cologne, or have they fuel injected the Essex - can't tell enough from the photos.
If it was a doner car supplying the parts - based on them all being 2.8i Special, I would have expected it to have a 5 speed box (appears to be 4 speed in the pics).
I noticed the following, using a decode website.
Engine code as stated is HY = 3000cc
Axle/final drive is L = 3.09
Trans/Gearbox is D = Auto.
I couldn't anything to explain the trim code, but this car started as a 3.0 auto, before being converted to a manual 2.8 injection at some point.
I imaging it was an easy conversation, if you had a donor car with all the required parts fitted.
.
edit: This was my cheat sheet:
https://www.classicfordmag.co.uk/wp-content/upload...
Edited by Hol on Thursday 29th October 17:05
The interior is from a 2.8i Special, so a later car and therefore not a match for the 4 speed which would have been available on an early 2.8i.
It looks like the remains of 3.0 Ghia (albeit with the body side mouldings removed) with possibly an early 2.8i engine and box and later 2.8i Special interior (it's got 2.8i Special wheels too).
It looks like the remains of 3.0 Ghia (albeit with the body side mouldings removed) with possibly an early 2.8i engine and box and later 2.8i Special interior (it's got 2.8i Special wheels too).
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